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Wolfen


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2007, 16:46    Post subject:  

Man, I'm starting to think I'm speaking to deaf ears. This thread's got more than 1000 views, and no one's posted any feedback. What's the point then?

I'll try one more time. This is the Mandriva script, test it out. I know you can. I've been a tester of various things myself on this site, it's not hard to check if the scripts works or not. BUT, this time, I've not had the time to test the script myself, as I've used the bandwith of my network most of the day.
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geneven

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec 2007, 21:50    Post subject:  

I've viewed your messages because I'm curious about what you're doing, but I am also interested in other things. I don't think we owe testing to you in exchange for looking at your messages. If testing was something we owed, I'd probably have to quit reading messages, since there are so many of them here and on other forums.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2007, 06:46    Post subject:  

Well, if you don't want to test, then you can at least suggest some distros you want me to include. Because I'm running out of ideas soon.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2007, 08:42    Post subject:  

Actually, if you were doing this for a business you should be very happy as you wouldn't need to maintain a complaints department! I see that your puppy install script has been downloaded 21 times, ubuntu 25, gentoo 17 & mandriva 10 times. I haven't downloaded myself as, being on dialup, i suspect I would be 95 before ubuntu download had finished. But then, what person in their right mind would want to install ubuntu? (sorry BruceB, no sleight intended).

I don't want to denigrate the fine members of our puppy community, but I wonder if anyone downloaded your scripts thinking that you had some new marvelous compression algorithm that had squeezed .isos into tiny packages. Look at this thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=111903925&t=23714

where I've uploaded the mtpaint-3.19 manual in two halves, and one half has been downloaded 24 times, the other 12...well, I suppose that is half! why would anyone want to dload half a manual?
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2007, 17:38    Post subject: Distros  

The distros I've used most are Suse and Mint, and now Puppy. Mepis is one you might consider.

If I were doing this, I might just go down the DistroWatch list for candidates, eliminating most of the Ubuntu-based ones because they are too similar, though Mint is my favorite. Or you could use a list you think is more accurate than the DistroWatch list.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jan 2008, 15:43    Post subject:  

Ah, of course. Mint, Mepis and Suse. I will do Mint, and I will at least try to do Mepis and Suse. Thanks, Geneven. I will take a closer look at the DW list too.
Muggins, you're right. Ubuntu and some others aren't really dialup friendly. And it is a possibility that some has misunderstood the scripts, like you say.
To make totally clear on that, these scripts are only download scripts for the distros. Then I will make burn-to-cd/dvd scripts. Installation will be left up to the individual distros.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2008, 16:56    Post subject: Linux Mint 4.0  

Ok, here's the Linux Mint script. But I would like some help to re-write this script; I feel there's something I've omitted. I will maybe add second trys like "wget [iso-link] || wget [alternate-iso-link]" in case a server's down or something, but first I'll focus on covering the eventual distros.
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan 2008, 03:45    Post subject:  

And here is the Mepis one. I'll try Suse next. The nice part of these scripts is that they're easy to modify, and so people can make their own, covering their favourite distros.
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2008, 03:11    Post subject:  

I made one for openSUSE. Any more requests?
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Feb 2008, 15:13    Post subject:  

Hi Wolven,

I'm familiar with your excellent work with Wolvix Linux:

http://wolvix.org/

Will you be offering a download script for your own distro? Wink
Frankly, if you've noticed a less than overwhelming response to your initiative, I think you may consider that a couple of factors could be in play here:

1. Most readers of this forum are interested in Puppy Linux. For myself I've not the slightest interest in downloading Ubuntu, SUSE, Mandriva or any other distro. If I were I would go to their website or a general Linux site like DistroWatch to download.

2. Unless your download method offers a significant advantage in speed and convenience for say, dial-up downloaders there's really no reason to use it. The download process is pretty simple, and speeds can be improved using wget-type download managers.

Consider posting at a general Linux forum, or any of the distros for which you've created download scripts.

Please don't take offence at my suggestions, and do keep up the good work with Wolvix! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2008, 16:21    Post subject:  

Uhm, I'm not the Wolven you think of. Confused Wolven is a great guy, I've spoken with him on the net, and I'm using his distro daily, but I'm not the author. I actually chose my name on here before I heard about Wolvix; if I had, I'd not use a name this similiar to Wolven (notice 'v' and 'f'..).

I ain't offended in any way by your statings; I find them true enough myself. As for my reasons to actually post here:

1. This will be a Puplet, meaning it is connected to Puppy. The reason for the download script should be explained pretty well in the first post.

2. I enjoy scripting, and doing this is good practice. I can also get feedback by people I know are polite, meaning improvement. This project was meant as a kind of "give something back" to the Linux community, as I see few other ways I could (being occupied by school etc.).

And I have made a download script for the Wolvix GNU/Linux Hunter 1.1.0, and I believe I put it up here. If not, I'll be sure to do so.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2008, 06:05    Post subject:  

Sorry for the confusion! Embarassed
I went back and read your first post and now better understand what you are trying to achieve:
a point'n'click minimal Puppy w/downloader for the distro of one's choice.
Neat!

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2008, 03:02    Post subject:  

Yup, you've got it there. And the confusion is no problem at all. It's not the first time Wink

But are there any suggestions fo other distros, or shall I now try to get VMware to work on my computer again, to attempt a remaster? (Getting VMware up worked before, but after a reinstall of Wolvix, it complains 'bout some /etc file).


EDIT: I see now, that VMware simply don't want to work, and besides, I do not have the time and resources needed for this project. So I will abandon this idea. Though people are welcome to use the idea / the scripts I made.

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