Puppy needs better documentation/website

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raffy · #21 Post by **raffy** » Sun 09 Dec 2007, 23:50

Can't we all just get along on one well-organized site with one registration process etc?

There is always a start, so that's the one. Wordpress is versatile enough and Barry is already using it, so this gives us a common web platform to use.

The look is easy to change. Perhaps browse "wordpress templates" and run a thread to vote on a choice template.

The wiki should be fine, but users now want an easy GUI. And the phpfusion CMS (in pupylinux.org) has no maintainer now - it's "badbehavior" anti-spam is now misbehaving and preventing admin access.

Klu9 has done a lot of work in the Wiki, so his opinion on this matter is welcome. If you feel there are other alternatives, please don't hesitate to start a new topic.

alienjeff · #22 Post by **alienjeff** » Mon 10 Dec 2007, 00:01

So much for consensus, eh Raffy? Why am I not surprised ...

#23 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 10 Dec 2007, 00:21

Yes I'm debating on moving over to word press myself, Because my Fire Hydrant & Fat Free Forum is based on phpbb and man i'm alway getting invaded with porn, I block the porn ip's and delete them like 3 times a week. I find it very distasteful that These damn porn bots seek and destroy family website like that. If i could get my hands on the people who actually think that crap is ok, I would wipe the streets with them! Oh ya we were talking about?
ttuuxxx

raffy · #24 Post by **raffy** » Mon 10 Dec 2007, 00:33

So much for consensus, eh Raffy

Any suggested alternative, Alien? You can let forum members try an alternative in your website. I guess we have to use any alternative to feel whether it can work for us.

#25 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 10 Dec 2007, 00:51

I personally feel that when it comes to packages it would be nice if each package would have a folder, you open the folder and then a text file with a link to the original website where it came from and a brief description and maybe an image. When it comes to files i know about 75% of them but the other 25% i have to search around just to find out what they are? Like Gslapt is good because it has descriptions. Very Helpful. When i was a new user the whole process was overwhelming, But as time went on and Read up and listened and learned but there should be an easier way. Or maybe divided into sections like multimedia and when you go to the multimedia section its like a wiki which has the description, links etc all on one page with a download link for the program. That way your files can be all over the world but the information and download link is centrally located and also you could have backup mirror links also.
ttuuxxx

#26 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 10 Dec 2007, 01:09

One last thing i think it would be great if we had a page on libraries like sometimes you need just 1 library file and when you download a pet package that contains it you get like 10 of them and 5mb extra. Well thats over kill and makes it really hard to find the ones you need sometimes, Just last week i needed one and only found it form the puppy 1.0 series, well it worked but boy i had to blow the dust off that webpage to find it. It took a few hours to find it and i had to look at over 100 pages before i found it, Really if we were more organized then that it would of taken seconds or minutes.

Simplicity is aways the way. Like pac-man or frogger, a couple of kb games =1000's of hours of fun.
ttuuxxx

Bikerbob · #27 Post by **Bikerbob** » Tue 11 Dec 2007, 21:06

Caneri wrote: EDIT..but it's sure a lot of fun trying to keep up..

Any ideas are most welcome.

Nice job on puppy.ca Eric,

I just visited the site.. and I like the clean access to so many of the Puppy resources.

This is what is needed as a Home type page to source out the info. I am sure so many other pages started in the same fashion but the enthusiasum of puppy users made those pages old.. quick.

James

geneven · #28 Post by **geneven** » Sat 15 Dec 2007, 07:19

Yes, many times I have gone crazy, for example, trying to find Barry's developer blog, popping from one site to another, reading about how the site was closed or was going to be closed, then being referred to another site, which was also not yet the right one.

My solution: I have one link in my personal toolbar for Puppy: www.puppylinux.ca. I'm not from Canada, but I find its interface simple and clear-cut.

darrelljon · #29 Post by **darrelljon** » Sat 15 Dec 2007, 11:54

That links broke. I like puppylinux.org but there are many potential improvements that immediately spring to mind.

Caneri · #30 Post by **Caneri** » Sat 15 Dec 2007, 13:44

hey the link will work without the "." at the end...lol

www.puppylinux.ca

and thanks for the kind words....I have removed the link to "Manuals" from the front until a consensus can be reached or at least get closer. It's now on the software page.

I welcome ideas...please post them....keeping up to puppy is a formidable task as you are well aware..my idea was to bring many developers together on my server to keep me up to date...I feel the "owner" will be much more able to do updates than myself and so far I think it's working...

Now I need to keep up to the developers...oh my...

EDIT...I wish I could put dates on each file..but so far I'm told my server doesn't support "dates"...the older version of Apache is what I've been told is the problem...any solution to this would be interesting to me.

Thanks

richard.a · #31 Post by **richard.a** » Sun 13 Jan 2008, 03:58

Many times I've been caught the same way in a forum or on email. As a webmaster I should know better lol

Caneri wrote:hey the link will work without the "." at the end...lol

www.puppylinux.ca

and thanks for the kind words....I have removed the link to "Manuals" from the front until a consensus can be reached or at least get closer. It's now on the software page.

I welcome ideas...please post them....keeping up to puppy is a formidable task as you are well aware..my idea was to bring many developers together on my server to keep me up to date...I feel the "owner" will be much more able to do updates than myself and so far I think it's working...

Now I need to keep up to the developers...oh my...

I'm impressed with your way of organising things at your site. Great job, mate, nice work.

With your permission I'll put links to puppylinux.ca (without the dot

) on a series of pages I know where to find. The proliferation of pages about PuppyLinux is frustrating and confusing to both web users and linux users, not just newbies who may indeed get frightened off, or take it as a joke. Yes I've heard that comment in the real world, which is disappointing for a project with so much potential, and so many contributors amongst its user base.

FYI I'm developing a sub-subdomain at http://micro-hard.homelinux.net/PuppyLinux using a quick guide to 2.15ce as an indication of what someone might like to see before going any further. The page has the "by-line" of "...can it hold its own against Vista and XP?"

The whole site is a sprawling help archive on things I found of technical interest, in many cases with saved pages from elsewhere describing things. It does not set out to be a pretty-pretty site at all, but as you land in a root directory of "topics" it works - for me anyway.

I have some downloads - the ones I'm likely to use myself, and the ones I've tried and found that they worked. Why? Because I can never find where to go and get them from again. They are my repository but anyone is free to use them. They get updated sometimes too. All courtesy of the bandwidth allowed me by my great Australian isp, internode.on.net - who do not charge for upload bandwidth which is what anyone accessing my vhosts (Virtual Hosts) is using, albeit on a dynamic ADSL2+ connection with DNS provided by dyndns.org who I also thoroughly recommend.

Caneri wrote:EDIT...I wish I could put dates on each file..but so far I'm told my server doesn't support "dates"...the older version of Apache is what I've been told is the problem...any solution to this would be interesting to me.

I've Never had any problems with 1.3.27 (the first I used), I think I have 1.3.35 or something somewhere. Ver2 doesn't seem to configure as easily as v1.3.x

Happy New Year, mate, from an "old fogie" who will be 73 in a week's time, in downunder Oztralia

And yes, I live in a retirement village too

106498 · #32 Post by **106498** » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 00:08

Good to see my threads still going strong! About the downloads of .pet files, if there was one website where everyone linked to the programs they made and put online, that would solve everything. I mean, if you put all the time and effort into making a package or even coding an application it surely can't be too much effort to post a small link to your download location/info on a dedicated page? (wiki maybe)

Instead of adding yet more sites, I vote the wiki is improved, the pages and info are there, just not the links to them.

Lobster · #33 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 06:21

I vote the wiki is improved

You get my vote

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/UsingThisWiki

John Doe · #34 Post by **John Doe** » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 07:17

Lobster wrote:
I vote the wiki is improved
You get my vote
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/UsingThisWiki

I'm a big fan of the puppy wiki also. Great to see everyone working together towards a common singularity. Said singularity being knowledge about how all this works together.

Knowledge will eventually be accepted as the ultimate defensive weapon. It's only a matter of time before that happens.

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