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muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

http://www.twinklephone.com/

Newcrest · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 172

Thanks Muggins for going to a lot of trouble to provide this.

Twinkle can be used with any VOIP Sip provider to make landline line quality calls to any landline or mobile in the world at substantially cheaper prices than your normal carrier. Do you wish for a second telephone line? You can even get additional dial in numbers at little or no cost.
They work just like a normal telephone.

Twinkle 1.4.2 Pet package mirrored here:
http://www.box.net/shared/dndps91t9h

Twinkle 1.4.2 additional libraries mirrored here:
http://www.box.net/shared/0h0nys1t31

In case the newer Twinkle doesn't work in the Puppy 2.1x series, try this one:
Twinkle 1.1 Pet package mirrored here:
http://www.box.net/shared/yj90d89xk8

Twinkle 1.1 additional libraries mirrored here:
http://www.box.net/shared/bzhb5gsef4

(edited 12 Sept 2009)

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

Upgraded to v1.2

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

By the way, if you're an English speaker, & when you start twinkle you're greeted in Dutch with the image below, then you're like me in not having the LANG environment variable set properly. This can be remedied with, say:

jackieflorida · Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 111 Location: MIAMI

I followed the directions in Muggins post of 8 Dec 07 above using Dingo but cannot find the mentioned menu item to run Twinkle.

I downloaded the two files, installing the pet package and extracting the library files to /.

What do I need to do to get this to run in Dingo?

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

Hi Jackieflorida,

Because it was compiled using QT3 libraries, I think you'll need to install qt-3.3.8.pet, from the pup3 repository.

If it still is unsuccessful, run twinkle in a console, and post any generated errors.

jackieflorida · Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 111 Location: MIAMI

Thank you for your reply, Muggins.

Unfortunately the qt-3.3.8.pet library files did not help with the problem; I still have no Menu display.

Of course, I would prefer menu presentation but if not possible I would try Console. Maybe you have further suggestions to achieve a menu item in Puppy4.

If not, since I'm new with Puppy, it would be helpful if you would post the Console command lines that I could copy and paste.

I use voipbuster.com as my voip provider. I was able to use it with Ubuntu Linux using their Ekiga sip manager which is part of the normal installation or boot from live CD. I would like to do this with my Puppy4 installation and so far Twinkle seems to be the only candidate for sip management. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks from Miami.

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

I just downloaded twinkle, rebooted into pup4, installed it, and it seems to start up OK. And Twinkle is in the menu, in the Network sub-section.

I'm thinking that perhaps you mightn't have done this step:

jackieflorida · Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 111 Location: MIAMI

Thank you for taking the time to verify your directions in Puppy4.

I booted up in another computer to start afresh and I am pleased to report to you that indeed it does show up in the Menu and the installed program does launch properly.

If my memory is serving me right, I may have formerly extracted the library files AFTER installing the Twinkle package in my original failed installation. This second time I installed the library files first, then Twinkle.

I am immediately replying to you right now before using it, but I will be going back to configure the Twinkle sip proxy.

I very much appreciate you help. Thank you again.

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

Good to hear you've got it working. But I should clarify that I don't think the order that you install the libraries should make any difference...apart from the fact that if you don't install them at all, twinkle won't work. The important thing being to extract them to /.

jackieflorida · Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 111 Location: MIAMI

With all of the good help from Muggins above helping me to make a successful install of Twinkle in Puppy4, I was then able to make a successful sip proxy call via my Voipbuster voip provider.

For those looking for a voip solution in Puppy, I want to report that by using all of the voip settings on Voipbuster's sip settings page, I was easily able to configure Twinkle to make successful calls.

Incoming voice quality is excellent and outgoing is fair. I did have to change the default codec setting in Twinkle to that recommended by Voipbuster. Perhaps another codec would give better outgoing quality but I have not yet tried any yet. Of course, the better your internet connection, the better the quality. Broadband is necessary for most voip services.

I recommend looking at the Voipbuster sip info here: http://www.voipbuster.com/en/sipp.html

The cost of this setup is reasonable for me. I have a limited set of minutes per month in my cell phone plan and excess minutes are $0.40 each which is not reasonable. To keep within my plan limit, I make quite a few calls via voip at my computer. I use a headset or a cheap usb bluetooth adapter communicating with my cell phone bluetooth headset when I want a wireless connection. I have been doing this in Windows and now I am pleased that I can do it in Puppy4.

The cost for the voip service with Voipbuster is a minimum account payment of 10 uro (about $16) with free calling in the US and in many other countries for the first 120 days. After that the typical call rate is about a euro cent per minute. You can see rate details here: http://www.voipbuster.com/en/calling-rates.html

There are many voip providers out there and the above is just for reference to use when you are setting up your voip system.

I hope this example of a voip setup is helpful.

mcewanw · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1238 Location: New Zealand

@muggins

Do you have md5sums for the two twinkle-related dotpets?

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

No I never bothered...what's happening if you try & run?

muggins · Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 5880 Location: hobart

mcewanw,

I didn't think I still had them on my computer, but I do, & just ran md5sum:

twinkle-1.2-i486.pet = 67adae2c8263e4f73a92c5b290535582
twinkle-libs.tar.bz2 = 1a0da13f02af77e2ec14da9d31e72a08

mcewanw · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1238 Location: New Zealand

@muggins: twinkle installed fine, thanks. Haven't actually tried using it as yet - that is for the future.
I just like to check the md5sums before using something I've downloaded.

Pity it doesn't seem to use jabber too.
I guess I'll end up going with gizmo. VOIP is a hot area of course, so things changing a lot; open source projects going proprietry and so on. No matter how much we criticise Microsoft, I can't help but recall how I used to use Netmeeting with Win95 and it worked fine. I gave a seminar in 1999 which included a live netmeeting call between NZ and Scotland via dialup... And netmeeting was just a few MBytes to install...
So much for progress. As for Linux... I struggled back then with CUSeeMe or whatever it was called; nothing like as polished as netmeeting... Hopefully, all that VOIP stuff will become standard on all installs sooner rather than later. Afterall, windows 95 managed... (I never did understand why Microsoft didn't boast more about netmeeting than they did; it was such a killer app).