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#21 Post by mclien »

ok, so far I use KDE on faster computer. But not for having KDE itself, but for some interesting applications.
These are:
1.konqueror (but perhaps there are much file browsers out there, that have the same features, with less overloading Qts or so)
Maybe endeavour is worth a shot, because wou have an Image AND filebrowser then.
2.KOrganizer, a calandar and task manager
....well, the rest of kde can be replaced by other (better) apps for me

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#22 Post by MU »

Hi,

do you know XfileExplorer http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=1922
and Monthcalendar http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2026 ?

Not really comparable to the KDE-Programs, for example XFE does not support Ftp or other nice features.

But for me it is ok as alternative, I use Gftp for Ftp .

Greets, Mark

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#23 Post by mclien »

hi MU,

that lokks good for me. I think I get the dotpups within this weekend to give them e testrun.

My calendar file should work in diffrent enviornments/ OS without distroying something...

I'll try this out and post the results.

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#24 Post by MU »

The calendar-files can be copied from Linux to windows without problems.

The Calendar works with Linux, XP and Win98.

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#25 Post by mclien »

@MU no time to tset calendar so far.

according to a post above from myself: filemanager endeavour:

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... =endeavour

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#26 Post by Guest »

kde_complete-3.4.2.tar.gz decompressed is 0 bytes ?

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#27 Post by Alienx »

Anonymous wrote:kde_complete-3.4.2.tar.gz decompressed is 0 bytes ?
Barry, please, we want to download it :wink:
Sorry, broken english above :-)

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#28 Post by bombay_rockers »

ok i have got kde running in puppy. earlier i had tried to install kde in puppy but i had failed to get multimedia running.

this time around i have used slax .mo modules and got kde running in puppy

my installation consists of
puppy 1.0.5
a fresh pup file ~400 Mb
kde base
kde libs
arts
xorg server(from slax - arts does not work with the xorg.pup made by MU)
kde games (no sound ??)
kde multimedia (juk, kplayer, mplayer, kscd.. are all working - i have been using this as my default desktop for a week now)
kde network apps
kde pim

k3b is running but i have not been able to test it as i dont have a cd rw drive

the size of my complete installation is ~270 mb
making dotpups of these is out of question for now & i am still testing this.
if you want to help in the testing process i can write for you exact instructions on how to get slax .mo modules to working kde in puppy

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have a look at kde puppy

#29 Post by bombayrockers »

this is a screenshot of kde running on my desktop
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#30 Post by saintlangton »

Well done sir!

How long would it take to do this from scratch with your instructions? Are we talking an hour? An evening? A weekend?

From the sound of most of this thread It sounds like it may have been a bit of a long hard jobs.

The use of slax modules sounds like a strike of inspiration. Does this mean slax modules in general are now available for porting to puppy? That would be cool. Or was a case of considerable surgery on those unsuspecting lumps of code?

Again, Congratulations!

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how to slax .mo & kde - instructions

#31 Post by bombayrockers »

instructions on how to extract slax .mo modules have been posted in how to section

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3366

i made this kde installation over a week in bits and pieces. i went about solving dependencies for applications one by one using ldd command.

you will require puppy 1.0.5
a fresh pup file ~400 Mb
usr_devx.sfs

a working SLAX ( download from slax.linux-live.org ~179 Mb)

128 Mb
200 Mb swap

i did not make a note of what all i have done so i will make a fresh kde install, jot down all steps and post them over here. with the instructions it should take a couple of hours to make the installation.

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Probably make a usr_more.sfs with AlienX scripts..?

#32 Post by PeterSieg »

Hi. If I understood the last remaster script AlienX has put together, this
script takes all changes+new files inside pup001 and make a usr_more.sfs
out of them.. So that one can copy this to /mnt/home together with a fresh
pup001 file and seeing and having the same environment as just before the
remaster step... basically meaning all alterations are in usr_more.sfs ready
to rumble...

Maybe that could easily make a usr_more.sfs, that result in a kde puppy...?!

PS
Have fun :)

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#33 Post by bombay_rockers »

Yes i know that the installation can be converted into usr_more.sfs. But the size of my final installation comes to around 250 Mbs so for puppy users it would be best if the packets are broken into much smaller packets(dotpups) i.e. arts (15 Mb), kdebase(20 Mb), ...

i have been using free servers on the net to post my stuff that usually have a limit of 50 mb. i have a internet connection as slow as a sloth. i have to try number of times before my files get sucessfully uploaded.

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#34 Post by GuestToo »

bit torrent is good for uploading files with a slow and unreliable connection

1) it breaks the uploads into small pieces

2) it automatically checks each piece ... when the torrent has finished downloading, the file(s) should be perfect copies of the original

3) as soon as another machine has a chunk, they will upload it too, at high speed if they have a high speed connection ... other computers with high speed connections can take over seeding the file(s)

4) super seeder mode will upload a different chunk to each downloader, so you don't have to upload the same chunk to a lot of different computers, so you only have to upload the file(s) once

the main problem with torrents is when people don't upload as much as they downloaded, because then someone else will have to upload what the leecher should have uploaded, or the torrent will break, because there won't be a seeder

when i decided how dotpups should work, the way i chose to make it is not very efficient in terms of space ... i figured that most dotpups would be relatively small, and any large packages could be downloaded and installed by the dotpup rather than be contained inside the dotpup ... basically, a dotpup is automatically unzipped in /root, which may have limited space if your pup001 file is not very big ... so you could have the dotpup and the unzipped dotpup in /root at the same time, which means you probably need at least twice as much free space as the size of the dotpup ... one thing i have thought of doing is to allow a user to choose where the dotpups unzip, so they could unzip on a mounted drive with lots of free space, for example

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#35 Post by MU »

You could split the file using "split" and send it to Ted_Dog.
You can split with "MToolsFM" in the filemanager-menue.
He could restore it with
touch newfile
cat kde.aa >>newfile
cat kde.ab >>newfile
cat kde.ac >>newfile
and so on.


Ted offers to host Puppys.
As a KDE-Package is larger than a puppy-iso, he might host that too.

See here:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=3336

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#36 Post by MU »

here is a tool to split/unsplit large files very easy: http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic ... 1155#21155

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#37 Post by Artie »

I think Puppy should stay away from KDE and GNOME and all the other major window managers. Don't we have enough of bloated distributions featuring those already!? It's been done to death! I don't want yet another Knoppix clone look-a-like. Puppy should stick with IceWM and downloadable themes. It's part of what makes Puppy unique. Keep it small and simple and pick out anything redundant. Please remove the games and make a 1.0.6 barebones version. Concentrate on solving bugs. If possible switch to the latest stable browser in the Mozilla Suite 1.7 series. Put in CUPS. Consolidate the package managers. Improve the fonts. Work on the multi-session live-dvd. Don't waste time on redundant window managers... Focus! :-)

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#38 Post by MU »

KDE is a standard environment, and several programs are available for KDE only.
So I think it is good to have that option (though basically I think like you).
If KDE goes to a usr_more.sfs, i see no problem.

You can load/unload it optionally by simply renaming that file.
I think it might be quite fast with puppy, I just loaded OpenOffice-Writer from Grafpup in 12 Seconds. Well thats fast :)

Mark

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problems with usr_more.sfs

#39 Post by bombay_rockers »

i tried making a dummy usr_more.sfs using

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mksquashfs ./filesystem /mnt/home/usr_more.sfs
./filesystem as the name suggests contains copy of installed kde files
namely
./filesystem/etc
./filesystem/opt
./filesystem/root
./filesystem/usr

all the files get mounted to the /usr folder.
how to edit the rc.sysinit to load the files to their correct location

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#40 Post by rob »

If you upload that file to me, I will redistribute it and put it on any ftp space I can get my hands on (I have a couple of friends with space + big bandwidth, more if my uni gets involved) plus i'll upload it to anyone with ftp space on here. I'm planning on making an electronic engineering live cd based on puppy for manchester university with all the electronics programs I need for the course. But most require KDE :(

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