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JB4x4 · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 256

UPDATE - 12-04-2007 - XFCE 4.4.1 D

I have updated my XFCE 4.4.1 package for Puppy....

Changes - 12-04-2007

--Gamin, Startup Notification, and VTE compiled in Puppy
----Previously using Slackware packages, should improve reliablity
----NOTE: Gamin is supposed to provide Desktop and Thunar updating, please report (Thank you)
--XFCE Mixer defaults to OSS sound for better "stock" Puppy support
----ALSA XFCE Mixer available as a PET package
--Rox script works with JWM/Pinboard, user does not have to edit .xinitrc
--Extra plugins in PET form.
--Moved from "experimental" to "windowmangers/XFCE" at www.puppylinux.ca

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Changes - 11-04-2007

--Smaller footprint
----SFS now 16.2 meg - was 19 meg
----PET now 20.4 meg / 49.6 meg installed - was 23 meg 53 meg installed
--Created mimetypes for .pet .pup .sfs .2fs .3fs .iso
--included a modified version of gray's rox script
----determines if the user is in XFCE or JWM and opens the appropriate file manager when called in a script
--added cpu monitor
--clock defaults to 12hr - am/pm
--added other various file "open with" defaults to Thunar
--Added two scripts - update-xfce-mimetype.sh / update-xfce-menu.sh
----update-xfce-mimetype.sh - updates mimetypes after installing XFCE-441b.sfs - see below
----update-xfce-menu.sh - clears menu cache after installing new programs so they can be detected (not always need)
----These can both be accessed from the System area of the menu.

To install .PET (full or frugal install)
-Download and install XFCE-441b.pet
-Exit to prompt and enter the command..
-xwin startxfce4

To install .SFS (frugal install)
-Download XFCE-441b.sfs
-Move to /mnt/home
-REBOOT computer
-When JWM appears, exit to prompt and enter the command..
-xwin startxfce4
-run the command Update XFCE Mimetype under the System section.
-logoff and restart window manager "xwin"

FILES-

XFCE-441d.pet
http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/windowmanagers/XFCE/XFCE-441d.pet

XFCE-441d.sfs
http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/windowmanagers/XFCE/XFCE-441d.sfs

NEW PLUGINS: Battery Monitor, Clipman, Places, Wavelan, XMMS, and the ALSA version of the XFCE-MIXER available at----
http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/windowmanagers/XFCE

As always, have fun...
JB

P.S. This will probably be my last update of 4.4.1. XFCE 4.4.2 has been released, and I will begin working on soon.

Thanks to http://www.puppylinux.ca/ for additional hosting...

siriusw · Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 3

JB4x4,

Just try to install .PET version and it works.
Thx for providing it!

Would you mind to tell me how to install other plugin for xfce from the xfce offical website? As I know, I have to compile it, right?

Lobster · Posted: Thu 18 Oct 2007, 18:46 Post subject:

great

What did Dougal take out to provide his (I think it is 1.5MB) version?
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/XfcePuppy

cb88 · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1160 Location: USA

xfce4.4.1 is just bigger and probably can't be reduced to that size even thought there are not that many more features...
Crying or Very sad

JB4x4 · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 256

siriusw - Plugins are easily installed as long as you have the devx file installed/loaded. Download the source code from the XFCE Goodies website, extract and run the command "./configure && make && make install" If you have trouble just PM me and I could create PET packages.

Lobster / cb88 - Yes, this is quite a bit larger. Although there are not alot of added features, most things have been improved with added function (ie. Thunar file manager, Orage clock, and the new XFDesktop with working icons/links). As for cutting stuff out, I wouldn't know where to start, and I wanted the full XFCE anyways Smile

Pizzasgood · Posted: Thu 18 Oct 2007, 20:19 Post subject:

I don't know if you tried these ideas yet, but maybe you could use strip on everything that's strippable. Another thing you could do is use UPX compression, but I don't know if Puppy supports that by default or not.

Also, Dougal's package didn't include Thunar or any other non-WM-essential applications. He also left out most plugins, XFWM themes, and GTK themes. Plus, there was no desktop icon support either back then. That's one of the new features.

JB4x4 · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 256

Pizzasgood - I stripped everything I could, hoping to save space. I had thought of UPX, but am also not sure if Puppy supports.

JB

cb88 · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1160 Location: USA

upx is an execuatable compression format and it extracts itself it has worked in 2.14 and 2.16 I am pretty sure that it works for 3.00 as far as that goes it should work in any linux should it not? some times it gets extremely good compression other times not so much....

it is worth using the exhastive compression method because it doesn't take that much longer on new PC's

Pizzasgood · Posted: Thu 18 Oct 2007, 21:42 Post subject:

Well, I know it will work. I just don't know if it's included in Puppy by default or would need to be installed.

JB4x4 · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 256

For those interested in the older smaller XFCE - (tested with Dougal's XFCE-4.2.3.2-base.pup) - I have made a small PET package that will update the menu to a more standard Puppy structure (similar to my 4.4.1). This also works with Puppy-NOP to the same effect.

JB

Puppetmaster · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

Hi, new user here, and a new user as regarding to puppy as well Smile

I just tried installing xfce-4.4.1.PET in hd-installed puppy 3.0. The message I'm given when I try is:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The XFCE-441.pet package has been downloaded to /root/.packages,
however there is not enough room to uncompress and install it.
The free space is 84729 blocks but it is estimated you will
need 234360 blocks temporarily for the expansion and install.

Note: If you are using a pup_save.3fs personal storage file,
it can be made bigger -- see Utilities menu.

This script will now delete the package and exit...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and obviously it doesn't install. What am I doing wrong?
I tried increase my storage file, but since I have an hd-install, I don't have one Smile

Pizzasgood · Posted: Fri 19 Oct 2007, 15:12 Post subject:

As I understand it, 3.00 has a glitch with the size calculations. It might be fixed in 3.01. I'm still using a 2.14 derivative, so I'm not up to date on all the changes in 3.01.

You could install it by hand. The package should be in /root/.packages/. Stick it in a "clean" area (I like to use /tmp/NewDir) and extract it with these commands:

SirDuncan · Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Ohio, USA

Actually, that glitch is far older than 3.00. I know that before 3.01 Barry spoke of fixing it, but I don't know if he did it for 3.01.

bobwrit · Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 286

Puppetmaster · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

Thanks for the swift replies! Smile

So either I have to install it by hand, or update my 3.0 to 3.01... Wink