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Ecopup 0.7 Beta [Depreciated]
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2007, 12:33    Post subject:  puppy derivatives
Subject description: ecopup
 

I am using current version of ecopup and testing it out. I was using an imac for a short while, (freinds) while my pc was being fixed but after using ecopup, i prefer this. Its so easy to use, and self explanatory with the menu and desk top layout. It is excellent for communities to use and those that are beginners. There are things that need 'tweaking'. Havnt tested every thing yet, but amsn i manage to crash, altho it could be hardware fault as i was using firefox browser into a social network page at same time on diff desk top. When signing in forums, it loses memory for saving passwords and address's, not that that is a bad idea or great loss.
I esp like the radio, cd burner, games and drivers ready down loaded for printers.
It makes a change to have the icons saying exactly what they do, absolutely non technical and non frightening to the beginner. Seems to take a while to open when first booting up, but hey!...minor aesthetics. Recording studio feature is right up my street, can slow the music down while playing bass to learn new songs. Wooo wo!!

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2007, 06:22    Post subject:
Subject description: ecopup 0.7
 

I have several people wanting to use this edition, they have always used windows XP, but love the way ecopup looks..(lovely desktop), and the information about everything in the menu and wizards etc....(great when something goes wrong and you hav'nt a clue what to do, it tells you, how to set up stuff and what they do, wow!!! Unheard of with microsoft.
Kids love the games...(need a few more grown up ones)?

Freinds cant believe that you can use 4 desktops at once..hahaha Rolling Eyes Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2007, 01:54    Post subject:  

Yes, I find that naming the icons with what things do rather than what they are called is a great way of increasing understanding for new users (although I have included the names of the actual programs on the tooltips of each icon).

Ecopup 7.3 is still in development, although progress has slowed now Im working on the next CE edition. Ive had word from gekko that his connection is capped and he wont be able to upload a base iso of the installer until the 19th when his bandwidth is reset. Expect a version with this included for testing shortly after that.

Because of my other commitments, Im going to scale down the changes in the next release to mostly bugfixes, and add the windows installer. I can only commit a few more days to this before things really hot up with the ce edition. The 0.8 series will be based on puppy 3.3 ce.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2007, 16:38    Post subject:  

bonjour

is there a way to port puppy 3.0 into the harddisk installation of ecopuppy?

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2007, 04:56    Post subject:  

Not as far as I know, but Im not actually that hot when it comes to the inner workings. I did boot a 3.00 series cd yesterday on my hard disk installation and it started to do an upgrade. I didint let it finish though to see the results.

If you would like to get the modifications of ecopup over to the 3 series it would be very welcome, and it would save a lot of work on the next 3.00 series ecopup. Im busy on the future community edition, but if someone want to try porting then I would be happy to help with what knowledge I have.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Nov 2007, 13:30    Post subject:  

A few more download options for ecopup 0.7.1.iso

Caneri's mirror
http://www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/custom/ecopup0.7.1.iso

CoBlitzed link - just use your regular web download method. CoBlitz caches a file among many big universities, and can get the file from all of them, relieving burden on original server & making the file still available if original server goes down.
http://coblitz.codeen.org/www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/custom/ecopup0.7.1.iso

Metalink - use a metalink-enabled downloader like Aria2 (puppy) or Orbit (Windows). metalinking gets file from multiple sources simultaneously, no single point-of-failure.
http://www.metamirrors.nl/backend/get.php?lnk=http://www.puppylinux.ca/ecomoney/ecopup0.7.1.iso
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Nov 2007, 22:19    Post subject:  

I was reading that Ecopup includes openoffice in a zip file? wouldn't it be better to use p7zip or directly with lzma (akin to gzip or bzip2) to compress with lzma so you save some space?

compresses as fast as gzip with compression as good as or better than bz2

http://tukaani.org/lzma/download

http://sourceforge.net/projects/p7zip/

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Nov 2007, 06:09    Post subject: Hi all  

Hella, excuse the delay getting back to you

Many thanks klu9 for the mirrors, I will update the ones from our main website shortly.

I have actually some some work in porting Ecopup (0.7.1) to the 3 series base. You must load the icewm package separetely (its .pup) as icewm is already included in the 2.15ce base that ecopup uses. If I remember correctly, the icons from 3.00 appear *in addition* to the ones already on the desktop, but you can just right click and remove them. There were a few other tweaks to do as well. Because I know that ecopup will port to a 3 series base, I was going to wait until I have more time after the next 3.03ce series is complete, and base an ecopup on that. I would e very grateful if you want to perform the upgrade Oui ad if you could post me back a zipped up eco_save.2fs file then it would save a lot of time to just upgrade from 3.00 to 3.03ce when it is complete. Ecopup inherits puppy No. 1 problem with a frugal install, which is the icons disappear (or worse) when the eco_save.2fs file fills up. This WILL be fixed in the next community edition.

With the next version (which will include the installer), we are opting for bz2 compression for the eco_save.2fs file and having the openoffice.sfs file separately on the CD. Initial reports form the person developing this say that it will save around 50m of space for more things on the cd. I ant to use this space for a few more applications, probably Thunderbird, and also opera as a small light web browser. Another big problem with puppy/linux in general is that flash 9 is highly unstable and causes browser crashes. I want opera and seamonkey to use flash 7 by default with flash 9 on firefox. This means that if a site will not work with one browser, they can just open it using the other. Firefox also has a nasty habit of losing the bookmarks, so the other browsers will at least be a "live backup" of those.

The idea is here that (like the office suites) there will be two programs available with the default install, a heavy version for faster computers or a light version. Even with a faster computer the user can choose the fast version of the application for a bit of extra speed if the extra facilities arnt being used. This means there can be a standard setup for all computers that are being recycled and it will work (either fast or slow) with either the heavy or the light apps. It wil also give new puppy users more experience if they want to do their own setup using standard puppy, as they can get a feel for all of the applications, and just install the ones they want.

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2009, 09:21    Post subject: New Version  

We have released a new version of ecopup, 0.7.1 Alpha

The thread is at

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36988

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 00:30    Post subject:  

Ecopup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My6GAlzX35g

I never had trouble connecting on Lan myself.

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OK! I have re-uploaded the only version I have

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Download.

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687,316 KB

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