New Puppy Logo!

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Henry · #201 Post by **Henry** » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 20:51

Worth noting that this poll is unofficial, as well as invalid in not including all the obvious candidates. It has only a limited advisory capacity. BK will choose an official logo, if any. But yes, we can try ;-)

And there's been some excellent work here!

Henry

eob · #202 Post by **eob** » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 23:59

Just my two cents, but, you'd have to be off your rocker and colourblind not to go with RasterPax.

Lobster · #203 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 02:54

I am 'off my rocker' and have already used RasterPax, for example on these pages:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TalkingStick
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakk ... xinePhoton

r051t4 · #204 Post by **r051t4** » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 10:07

I was going to vote (for the Paw), but couldn't. Seems it's already over, though without any announcement.
Well, reading the whole thread, it seems like this thread is not about finding a new and good logo for Puppy after all. Rather it's a way to legitimize a logo that already in favour by SOME Puppy personnel (rastapax's is already in the gallery since 10/11/2006 but Puppy never used it - that's a fact!)
Maybe that's why the poll doesn't include all the submitted logos, and was quickly closed while the favoured one is in the lead (notice that no date been given previously when exactly the poll will be closed).
Notice also that although it is said that BK has the final word and not the biased poll result, but the biased poll result has always been their argument base, and furthermore the favoured logo already been implemented in Puppy new versions before BK announce his decision.
That means one (or more?) who has the authority of the Puppy wiki and forum is the real (de facto) KING(s) of Puppy. And obviously the KING(s) won't listen to anybody else, let alone his people, albeit how reasonable the explanations are (the KING likes it, punt).
In a way, it somehow shows disrespect to BK and the Puppy community. MAY GOD SAVES THE KING(s) !!!

raffy · #205 Post by **raffy** » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 11:02

If it means "most work done", then there would indeed be kings here - am sure Lobster and MU are good candidates*.

Although, I guess Lobster would just be happy swimming in his aquarium rather than sitting on a throne.

As to use, if you search for splash image implementation, Pizzasgood is already using one of the rastapax images. That is one other use, in addition to what Lobster said.

The community wants to embrace all contributors and use all contributions. That is one reason you may not see a "clean" end to this vote. (I would not know myself the end of the vote, as another member put it up.)
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* For the most work done, it will of course be Barry.

Lobster · #206 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 15:22

At one point (before this thread existed) I tried improving the rastapax image

. . . the original is better

I always liked the Puppy + flower image and that is used on the wiki

Who remembers the original Puppy logo?

glad that is no longer used . . .

#207 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Wed 19 Sep 2007, 00:17

I've always thought that one surpassed the "scary" factor of my test-pattern splash screen from Puppy 1.0.1 or so. Even so, I was almost disappointed to see it go.

As far as I can recall (which isn't very reliable) Puppy has never really had any official logos, other than possibly pictures of Puppy himself (the dog, I mean). People say "this should be the official" or "no, that should be!", but in the end, Barry just picks out an image he likes and uses it until he decides to grab another. And the various Puppy websites just use whatever their owners/maintainers feel like using. All in all, it's chaotic. Just like Puppy.

I don't think that's a bad thing at all. When you have an official logo, you feel inclined to make everything based off that. But when you don't, you get much more variety. Just look through this thread! Now consider the Ubuntu logos. They're all boring, because they're the same thing.

Puppy is exciting, and not having an official logo is too. You never know what someone will post next. Maybe they aren't as immediately recognizable, but they do have a tendency to make you think "puppy" (they'd better!). Whether you capitalize it depends on whether you've heard of Puppy before, but then, someone who hasn't wouldn't know what it is anyways.

So as far as I'm concerned, there is no logo. That way the creative doors and windows and skylights and portals are all wide open, and you get a small sense of mystery or exploration because you never know what to expect. It's just more fun.

Edited 9-19-07 for spelling. Pattern has an 'n' at the end

alienjeff · #208 Post by **alienjeff** » Wed 19 Sep 2007, 00:50

CutePup wrote:"...and most important is: Vincent is BK's dog in REAL life! (nobody could diminished this fact).

Unless I've missed an adoption notice along the way, I'll "dimish" that "fact:" according to this forum post, Vincent belongs to Barry's daughter.

macadavy · #209 Post by **macadavy** » Wed 19 Sep 2007, 06:16

Though I expressed my personal preference for Vincent above, Pizzasgood, I like your attitude - I'm with you - let's keep it open!

jonyo · #210 Post by **jonyo** » Wed 19 Sep 2007, 16:24

alienjeff wrote:Unless I've missed an adoption notice along the way,

beneaton · #211 Post by **beneaton** » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 14:29

CutePup wrote: "A logo must represent the company in many different contexts..."

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mr. Barry Kauler, established the "Puppy Linux Project" in January 2003, as a collaborative effort not a monolithic corporation.

With that in mind, maybe arguing about and trying select a single logo to represent all of the parts of that collaborative effort in all possible contexts, is the wrong way of looking at things.

#212 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 14:55

well my conclusion all the new ones just don't work for me, I just like the old one with the flower in his mouth, he looks like a happy puppy, not a vector puppy, or an ugly white MU puppy, that breed of dog is noisy and all you want to do is kick it to shut it up. I think they should keep the one I talked about or go corporate with letters and or a logo not dog related but graphical.
Oh one last point on my website the one puppy icewm start menu button that I've made has been downloaded over 5000 times and its the one with the dog with the yellow rose, but that image has the rose removed. Just an idea. www.ttuuxxx.com

#213 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Fri 28 Sep 2007, 01:47

That fire hydrant one is awesome!

#214 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 06 Oct 2007, 17:40

then download the whole distro, puppy 3.0 Fire Hydrant

Installed: Firefox, flash, java, plus thunderbird, sunbird and lightning so you can get your mail and your calendar in one app. plus icewm, and 19 themes, a few new games in the firefox tool menu, xmms with a sony skin, Limewire, shutterbug, Gimpshop, Yahoo messenger, aMSN messenger,etc a lot was added and no scripts removed.

I made it to replace 2.15ce , its up to you

you can find it here www.ttuuxxx.com

macadavy · #215 Post by **macadavy** » Sat 06 Oct 2007, 18:27

Thanks for Fire Hydrant 3.0 and for hosting Fat Free. I've downloaded both! Are md5sums available for these ISOs?

#216 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 01:27

hi, the fire hydrant MD5 54945784CFC830CAD3880A2D99A246D8

fat free MD5 4022FE74EEA243488550B5C48955C180

macadavy · #217 Post by **macadavy** » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 03:20

Zippy response, thanks, ttuuxxx.
I've registered at the Puppy Linux forum you host on your site to keep up with developments.
And btw - greetings from the Great White North, eh?

#218 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 04:46

macadavy wrote:Zippy response, thanks, ttuuxxx.
I've registered at the Puppy Linux forum you host on your site to keep up with developments.
And btw - greetings from the Great White North, eh?

also my default Window Manager is IceWm , i think you put JWM oops, lol
also hows the the great white north, I miss Canada been 6 years away in Australia. Oh well tell me what you think of Fire Hydrant. I really put a lot of work in it.

Natashquan · #219 Post by **Natashquan** » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 03:07

While Beneaton has a point that Puppy is "a collaborative effort not a monolithic corporation", I still think that a distinct logo would be valuable; if you as an individual don't feel like using the logo, then fine, nobody's forcing you.

That said, I think that making a logo that is too cartoony/detailed is a mistake. It makes it so that it's not as easily customized, and when it's made smaller (like for the Start menu) it's less recognizable. Windows and Macintosh both use logos that are stylized, easily customized, and still easily recognized when shrunk. I think rastapax's logo fits these criteria the best. Sure, it might be hard to see against a black background, but it takes seconds to colour it white (or whatever colour you like) so it's bright and easy to see against any background. Vincent, while a good runner up, doesn't customize so easily while still looking good.

Long story short, I like rastapax's logo the most.

As far as making a special logo for Puppy 3.0 Fire Hydrant... I direct attention to Apple's use of logos on OSX. There's OSX Jaguar, OSX Panther, OSX Leopard... But they don't make a completely new logo every time they release a new OS, because that would confuse everybody. They just modify their existing logo and it looks great while still being easy to figure out. Jaguar used the Apple logo with a spotted design on it. Panther used the Apple logo in glossy black, etc.

So taking this into account, we could do something like this for the Fire Hydrant logo (I'm sure anyone else could do it better; I don't claim to have any ability in graphic design):

raffy · #220 Post by **raffy** » Fri 02 Nov 2007, 08:36

I had time today to work on a Linux logo with Puppy and Tux based on the previous work here.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

New Puppy Logo!

Choose your preferred Puppy logo

king

Pizzasgood I'm with you!

if you like the fire hydrant

Sweet!

fire hydrant md5

Thanks!

Re: Thanks!

Puppy with Tux