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Fat Free Puppy 2.17 - Released Oct 2007
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:10    Post subject:  Fat Free Puppy 2.17 - Released Oct 2007
Subject description: Totally cut-down version of 2.17 - 52.9MB
 

This version of puppy is Fat Free, a complete list of applications removed are on my site. Big Bass did all the hard work and has let me host this version. This Version basically gives you the freedom of choosing what you and want via your pet manager. Feel free to visit Arrow www.ttuuxxx.com and download your own copy today. Very Happy
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HairyWill


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 16:59    Post subject:  

cool
The iso is 53MB.
Any idea how much ram it needs to boot?

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cb88


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 17:48    Post subject:  

i'll find out as soon as i get my hand on a 50 pack of cd's tomorrow
i'll test in in virtualbox to see how low it will go too

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 18:25    Post subject:  

I don't know how much ram it needs but at that size, I think 64Mb should run it, maybe less, I would like to know how you go with it, and the amount you used would also be helpful. Thanks
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raffy

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 19:44    Post subject: nice  

Good initiative there, I'll test it today. Thanks!
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2007, 21:09    Post subject:  

Quote:
Big Bass did all the hard work
Rolling Eyes

A fish?
Evolved? Does that mean I have to stop eating them? Confused

Incidentally it is better getting 10 RW-CD's then 50 throwaways . . .
Unless you give them away Smile

You have based it on 2.17.1?
Great work - already much interest . . . clearly a need . . . Very Happy

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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Sep 2007, 11:47    Post subject:  fat -free-pup version using 2.17 core 52.9MB
Subject description: have some of the new pets from the new version 3 puppylinux with a 2.17 base fat-free
 

fat-free-pup is just what the name says a stock puppy with many apps removed
no scripts were changed so no added problems either

The reason why the fat-free-pup came about
with the many upgrades and version changes puppylinux needs
to be reinstalled many times to keep up with the new progress
if you have dial-up a large iso is all day to download if you are happy with your puppy linux version but just want the new browsers when they come out and other programs that change frequently I removed them so they are not permanent
you can upgrade them without a total reinstall now with the new version 3 puppylinux it will take time to iron out the new glitches ( I looked over the new packages in version 3 and I say about 60% of the packages have been upgraded and a different kernel and scripts and also xvesa and xorg to name a few ) and I welcome the good things that come from version 3 I already use the new browsers
and hope to have the benifits of slackware packages thats a big plus




I have a fat-free-pup for version 3 in the making I have the packages sorted already and when all the reports come back with what works and what needs to be adjusted I will build the iso for me to test I'll keep you posted

I continue to use fat-free-pup as my main and only OS Wink

another link thanks to caneri
http://www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/custom

during the build puppy is hard coded for many defaults such as the default browser even though seamonkey was not used it is still seen as default by puppy not my doing thats just the way it was made but it is easily changed manually in /usr/local/bin right click default bowser open it as text then change the word

#!/bin/sh
exec firefox "$@"


thats if you want firefox .Seamonkey will just work as default after it is installed with pet-get
then once firefox is running you could go to edit >preferences> and paste this as the home page http://www.puppylinux.com/

******************* new way below as of 10-2-07 *********************************


Important update ! do you want the new firefox for version 3 puppylinux came out yesterday ? well I have excellent news for you fat-free-pup has no browser so the new version 3 puppylinux pet works fine with fat-free and it auto adds to the menu I am using it now Very Happy

1.)install a temporary browser of your choice with pet-get
2.) then use one of the new version 3 pets from the official puppylinux site

firefox link below @9.4MB
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-3/mozilla_firefox-2.0.0.4.pet

opera link below @8.2MB
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-3/opera-9.23.pet

dillo link below @267KB
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-3/dillo-0.8.6teki-mu.pet


now firefox works fine
a fix for flash 9 direct link for download below 957kb
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=3147

I borrowed that flash fix from this thread for more info on flash fix
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15194&sid=574ffd15498d266d232bac554fcf5afc


a bonus if you want thunderbird for your mail ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-3/mozilla_thunderbird-2.0.0.4.pet

thunderbird 11.5MB
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P.S ttuuxxx wrote big_bass did all the hard work" thats me" Barry K did all the Hard work
I just had fun doing something a little different originally for my own use since I run puppy off a 2Gb flash memory everything needs to be small and fast

have fun build what you want
big_bass

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superchook

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2007, 08:30    Post subject: Console editor  

Might I suggest a very small addition to this version and that is an editor that you can use when X is not working.

I always have to edit xorg.conf to get X working properly so an editor that can be used from the command line is important. I did see that ed was included but do not know how to use it. The books I have describe it as obsolete and pass on to the "modern" editors such as vi!

Perhaps e3 could be added?
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2007, 10:09    Post subject:  

superchook
In the nicest possible way, my personal preference would be that you learnt to use ed rather than increase the size of FatFree by 1 byte. Whats the point in going to the effort of paring something back to the bare minimum only to start introducing duplication? Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2007, 14:25    Post subject:  

@lobster i usually end up burning my cds at school so that mean using XP i haven't see an XP computer yet that does cd-rw without messing up the cd so i am gonna buy a 30 pack of cds for $6 not a bad price if i do say so myself
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2007, 22:07    Post subject: Console editor.  

Will,
I have found and printed out the man page for ed from my Ubuntu box so I'm all right Jack!

cheers,
Ken
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reckrhodes

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 03:10    Post subject:  

I changed manually in /usr/local/bin right click default bowser open it as text then change the word

#!/bin/sh
exec firefox "$@"

but still can't use the firefox.

Anybody could please help me on this.

-reckrhodes
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vanchutr

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 04:23    Post subject:  

May be this would help you?

You can run Firefox 1.5.0.3 (install with file firefox-1.5.0.3.pet). After you (must) run the pinstall. That's all.

Change to /opt/mozilla.org/bin and test with command firefox.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 05:06    Post subject:  

vanchutr,

thank you.


My problem is that i don't have a browser on this fat free version of puppy that can connect to the internet.

In command line, i type firefox, but still no browser will appear.

Right now i am using the 2.15CE. Maybe i could use this version to download such firefox-1.5.0.3.pet program.

Thank you again.
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 11:21    Post subject: no browser forced on you (thats the idea )  

please dont expect a browser it was a lot of work to remove it

why? browsers are a personal choice I dont force my opion on you for a browser

some steps you should follow

1.) configure your firewall as usual
2.)set up your internet connection
3.)used the pet-get manager and install a browser

some things to think about (you decide)

if you want it easy select seamonkey
if you want fast and light use dillo
if you want opera or firefox you have to adjust the defaults

if you want chat install that too
if you need gxine there are some libs you can download with pet-get

gxine-0.5.9
xine_lib-1.1.4
xine_extra_codecs-1

they were removed because if you like mplayer or something else
that would be just extra bloat

fat-free-pup is complete enough that I used it to build fat-free-pup
and burn the iso from unleashed thats why I left the CD stuff there in the menu

so you can create what you want
if you dont feel comfortable doing that use puppylinx more time untill you feel comfortable with it then switch to fat-free-pup


big_bass

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