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BarryK · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 12:03 Post subject: Vector Linux is great!

First impression... fantastic!

I downloaded Vector Linux 5.0STD beta2.

I've done a test install onto a 4G partition, and there was a moment of consternation when it gave an error message "Cannot mount /dev/hda3 ..."
The install-to-hard drive script offered a choice of reiserfs, ext3 or ext2, but it turns out that ext3 is not supported ...it is a module, but not available during installation. A hiccup there.
So I chose ext2, which worked, but I think reiserfs is built-in to the kernel, so will choose that next time.

VL has so much great stuff, and so fast!
I'm running VL right now, Firefox 1.0.2.

Window manager is IceWM.

Okay, I'm going to throw out Mandrake 10.2, install VL into the vacated 30G partition, then see about downloading packages for development.
Very interesting package manage tools, haven't looked closely at them yet.

EarlSmith · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 15:41 Post subject:

So Barry is this official, vector 5.0 STD is the new development standard enviroment or are you still evaluating?

Flash · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 15:56 Post subject:

What the...? The smileys are moving! Anyway, congratulations Barry on ditching Mandrake. Does this mean I didn´t need to install Mdk 9.2 over 10.2 after all? Confused

Not that it really matters. Smile

Alienx · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 16:18 Post subject: Re: Vector Linux is great!

JohnMurga · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 16:37 Post subject:

Hey

danleff · Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 294 Location: Albany, NY

Barry, I got to tell ya, I used Vector Linux in my old laptops with limited memory (older versions) with 32 mb memory or less. It ran very well with XFCE. Looks like this will be very good consideration for Puppy. I will be interesetd in seeing the progress.

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

the main point i was making about Ubantu, is that it is Debian-based, but somewhat modified, so there can be problems installing standard debs in Ubantu ... this is a problem that any distro has that is based on Debian but isn't exactly pure Debian ... i had the gaim problem with Libranet, which at one time was the only distro that was an easy way to install a Debian based system ... there seemed to be no way to install a newer version of gaim using apt-get, that didn't download hundreds of megs of system files that would break Libranet

i don't really like Gnome, or XFCE, or Ubantu ... just my personal preferences ... i know lots of people do like them

VL is based on Slack, but lighter, leaner, faster, and easier-to-install ... it was originally intended to be used on older hardware ... it does have some peculiarities, but i find it does most things i want it to do quickly and easily and efficiently ... which is why i like it, i guess

i'm not sure that it would be ideal to base Puppy on VL ... it does have it's limitations ... it doesn't have much of a package system (neither does Slack)

JohnMurga · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 18:58 Post subject:

Hey

BarryK · Posted: Mon 23 May 2005, 22:24 Post subject:

Well, it is still evaluation stage.

GuestToo, perhaps you can answer this: I dragged all of the Unleashed Rox-Filer package over to Vector, and it starts up fine from a terminal -- type "rox" and there is is. But, from Rox I dragged the rox executable onto the desktop, and there was a shortcut -- hey, that surprised me -- anyway, the shortcut just executes /usr/local/bin/rox, so seems simple enough, except that Rox doesn't work properly -- there's an error message that it can't read /root/Choices properly -- but, it is there.
So, do you have any idea what is going on here?

EarlSmith · Posted: Tue 24 May 2005, 00:29 Post subject:

Have you ever considered using Debian. The latest version named Sarge will be released May 30, 2005. Other small versions of linux like DSL are based on Debian. With a new stable realease it may be worth considering.
It would also fit in with my earlier comment about having a stable release and a bleeding edge version of Puppy.
I know nothing about the needs of developers, but it is a large stable distribution. It might save you guys the time of developing everything yourselves.

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

Lobster · Posted: Tue 24 May 2005, 03:07 Post subject: Development

The consideration for developers - or the underdeveloped in my case - is a little different to just what is a good or a fun distro.
Shocked

Debian is based on Slack {perhaps not - see death threat in next post]
Slack is the oldest of the distros still going. In a sense it is the purest and maybe closest to Puppy, which is kind of a return to a "start from scratch philosophy"

I would be much happier using Vector Linux for compiling (rather than VanDriver aka Mandrake), once I get around to that, as the download for Vector 4.3 is 333meg. It is also a good idea that development stadardises on a compile environment. Another reason why Vector is good - both our Master Pups (Barry and GuestToo) like it. However John is also compiling Puppys and others may too. If anyone runs into probs they need help with, it is good to be aware of what tools are available and how to use them.

However Developers are an independent lot and trying to organise them is as someone said of organising programmers 'like herding cats'.

Puppy philosophy is simpler . . . and friskier

If it works - frisk!

Smile

JohnMurga · Posted: Tue 24 May 2005, 09:58 Post subject:

Hey

Lobster · Posted: Tue 24 May 2005, 10:29 Post subject: History of Debian rewritten

Tee Hee - ignorance is the only way I learn . . .

I am gonna have another look at SLAX as a forfeit - which is a nice looking and easy slackware - just to see if I prefer it to Vector (which from what I remember I will)

Yep I had a look at the "Kill Bill" edition which I downloaded about a month ago. I think I will stick with Puppy . . .

Then I am gonna stand in the corner and mutter for a while . . .

PS. I never got a Platypus (see next post)

JohnMurga · Posted: Tue 24 May 2005, 11:05 Post subject:

Hey