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revised Network Wizard + dhcpcd Aug 24 2007
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nic2109

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Sep 2007, 15:59    Post subject:  

Post deleted as it was in the wrong thread.

Thanks.

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jonyo

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 13:56    Post subject:  

tempestuous wrote:
Your Netgear MA401 is supported by the orinoco_cs module or hostap_cs module. The hostap_cs is a better choice, so unload (or blacklist) the orinoco_cs first.


Just found out that orinoco_cs doesn't support wep.Sad Did a search of ma401 & suppose the few that have got it to work did so with an open wifi network.

Can't say I saw any mention of hostap_cs? What's the story on "is a better choice"? Tried it though on a few pup variants & loaded ok but didn't get a wifi interface afterwards. Don't suppose it (or might there be any other 16 bit pcmcia card that) supports wep 64?
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 21:22    Post subject:  

The Netgear MA401 contains a Prism2.5 chipset.
The hostap driver is a better choice because it was specifically written for this chipset, the orinoco driver was not.

If the wizard fails, use the commandline.
First make sure the orinoco_cs module is unloaded -
Code:
rmmod orinoco_cs


Now load the hostap_cs module, and force its mode to "managed" -
Code:
modprobe hostap_cs
ifconfig wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
ifconfig wlan0 up


Check that an interface has been created -
Code:
ifconfig -a

If you don't see a wifi interface listed (wlan0) then you have problems.
If you do see wlan0 listed, proceed to configure your ESSID and WEP key -
Code:
iwconfig wlan0 essid MY_ESSID
iwconfig wlan0 key open MY_HEX_WEP_KEY


Now obtain an IP address with dhcpcd
Code:
rm /etc/dhcpc/*.pid
dhcpcd -t 30 -h puppypc -d wlan0
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 22:23    Post subject:  

thx

Tried it out in 2.14 & 5. With both after ifconfig wlan0 up, come up with SIOGIFFLAGS: No such device

Tried it out with eth0 instead & same thing.

Strange.. neither auto loaded orinoco_cs on boot like they did before though i've been trying all this live cd in ram..

Have to head out to work..
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 22:48    Post subject:  

jonyo wrote:
SIOGIFFLAGS: No such device

Mmm. This means that your device does not contain a Prism2x chipset.
Maybe there's a variant of the MA401?
Please run these commands, and paste your results.
Code:
cardctl status
cardctl ident
cardctl info

We're looking for your device id number. This will enable us to determine precisely what chipset is in your MA401, then we will know what driver is suitable.
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 15:56    Post subject:  

Ok, Back in 2.17 now. Dunno what this prob with orinoco_cs not autoloading on boot anymore is about (see a message on boot..modprobe failed..wont bind or something..) but did read when I searched ma401 that someone had results in 2.13 & 4 by popping in the pcmcia card after boot up so tried it out & it worked. Smile

I'm quite sure that orinoco_cs setup'd work wifi with an open network though I've not tried it out. I think when I start trying wep settings..gets all messed up.

With this driver:
# ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:09:5B:24:54:04
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:221 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:221 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:40524 (39.5 KiB) TX bytes:40524 (39.5 KiB)

The other info requested:
-# cardctl status
Socket 0:
5V 16-bit PC Card
function 0: [ready]
Socket 1:
no card
-# cardctl ident
Socket 0:
product info: "NETGEAR MA401RA Wireless PC", "Card", "ISL37300P", "Eval-RevA"
manfid: 0x000b, 0x7300
function: 6 (network)
Socket 1:
no product info available
-# cardctl info
PRODID_1="NETGEAR MA401RA Wireless PC"
PRODID_2="Card"
PRODID_3="ISL37300P"
PRODID_4="Eval-RevA"
MANFID=000b,7300
FUNCID=6
PRODID_1=""
PRODID_2=""
PRODID_3=""
PRODID_4=""
MANFID=0000,0000
FUNCID=255
#
EDIT - think I see the prob - ma410RA?
I'll try an open no encryption connection..first chance I get.

Not sure in this part where it is that I enter my essid & wep?
wconfig wlan0 essid MY_ESSID
iwconfig wlan0 key open MY_HEX_WEP_KEY
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 21:37    Post subject:  

Yes it looks like your MA401RA has a true Orinoco chip, while the MA401 has a Prism2x chip.
So the orinoco driver is definitely correct, the hostap won't work.
I think the WEP problem is due to a limitation of your card's onboard firmware. The solution is probably to upgrade the firmware, instructions here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=92709#92709
but I warn that there is a risk you may kill your card. Though if WEP is not working you probably want a new card anyway. The only problem will be finding an older PCMCIA wifi card which is compatible with your 16bit PCMCIA interface.
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 22:20    Post subject:  

tempestuous wrote:
Yes it looks like your MA401RA has a true Orinoco chip, while the MA401 has a Prism2x chip.


Something to look out for for anyone considering the ma401. Nowhere does it say RA on the cards or stuff that came with them. Have 3 though so i'll dig some more..might get lucky.

Lotsa info comes up with a google of ma401ra..
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2007, 16:30    Post subject:  

Update - Found a 16 bit card that's supposed to use a hostap driver (on the way..in the mail). Will advise..

Outa curiosity, in the above pix, - Status shows > 44444444. What does that mean?

Dunno if this info is correct..
http://michael.gargantuan.com/FreeBSD/hostap.htm
quote from link
"It seems that the model change from MA401 to MA401RA is meant to signify the change in Prism chip. The MA401 has the Prism II chip, and the MA401RA has the Prism 2.5."

found another.. http://mysite.verizon.net/res183uh/toshiba.html
quote from link
"I actually had was a MA401RA. More Googleing. Went to www.linux-wlan.com got RPMS for my kernel version that work with the Prisim 2 and 2.5 chipsets followed the simple instructions. BadaBing BadaBoom, highspeed wireless net access"

and this - quote from link
"Well as it turns out the wireless network card manufacturers have this habit of changing the chipsets inside of the cards and not changing the packaging to reflect this"

Googling - ISL37300P", "Eval-RevA - which came up in --# cardctl ident
lotsa stuff..

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2007, 21:17    Post subject:  

jonyo wrote:
The MA401 has the Prism II chip, and the MA401RA has the Prism 2.5

Yes, I saw such information on the web, too. But I saw other contradictory information that early MA401's had Orinoco chipsets. I even saw someone claim that some MA401's had a Hermes chipset (updated Orinoco).

jonyo wrote:
Went to www.linux-wlan.com got RPMS for my kernel version

You were lucky to get away with that. Kernel compatibility depends not only on the kernel VERSION, but also on the specific CONFIGURATION of the kernel.
It would be far more sensible to use the linux-wlan-ng drivers I compiled recently for forum member svaens -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=137761#137761

jonyo wrote:
followed the simple instructions. BadaBing BadaBoom, highspeed wireless net access

I'm glad that it worked, but "simple" ... no way. I have been using the linux-wlan-ng drivers for 4 years now with my Prism2.5-based USB adaptor, I should know! The unique setup commands used by the prism2_cs (linux-wlan-ng) driver is explained in the earlier link.
Puppy's Network Wizard currently supports the prism2_usb driver, but not prism2_cs driver. This may change in the near future.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Sep 2007, 17:18    Post subject:  

jonyo wrote:
Went to www.linux-wlan.com got RPMS for my kernel version

>>You were lucky to get away with that. Kernel compatibility depends not only on the kernel VERSION, but also on the specific CONFIGURATION of the kernel.
It would be far more sensible Smile to use the linux-wlan-ng drivers I compiled recently for forum member svaens -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=137761#137761
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Just to clear up, i did not do this. Its a copy paste (as are the other quoted stuff) from the links I found.

Bingo! Not sure at this point what's in the netgear ma401ra "ISL37300P", "Eval-RevA" card but..WIFI's good to go with pup 98 & 2.17!Very Happy Mind you with an open connection no encryption, but good enuff for me right now Smile on these ol' laps i'm fiddlin with. Smile

Card works great thus, so far.. using the orinoco_cs driver in pup. Certainly a 16 bit 5 volt card that works.

Safe to say this card uses an orinoco chip or..any way to find out for sure?
I'd like to try the firmware fix to be able to use wep 64 encryption. I could use & test out the lap alot more that way.

Guess I could try this http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=136686#136686 driver though not really sure how to go about it..
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Triple booting pup 98 & win 98se along with 2.17 live cd save file to HD, all wifi (open no encryt) with the ma401ra "ISL37300P", "Eval-RevA" on a ibm 380 ed lap p166mmx, 80 meg ram & 160 meg swap partition. Very Happy

The other lap is a compaq presario 1220 200mmx cyrix, 80 meg ram..that I'm getting to..
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2007, 18:02    Post subject: Re: revised Network Wizard + dhcpcd Aug 24 2007  

tempestuous wrote:
Network Wizard
1. As well as identifying the network interface by name, the wizard now also identifies the brand/model of the device, and whether the interface is LAN or wireless.
2. Support for WPA and WPA2 encryption, and the wizard will only permit these settings if the wifi module in use is compatible.
3. Support for the configuration of the prism2_usb module, which uses unconventional setup commands. And scanning also works with prism2_usb.

The package is over 100KB because it contains lsusb plus the relatively large configuration file needed by lsusb.

Thanks to Dougal for many scripting revisions, and JustGreg for testing the WPA2 function.

For Puppy versions earlier than 2.17, the "Autoload USB" function requires the additional net-wiz-usb-extras-k2.6.18.1.pet


I'm sorry to say this but installing and removing this package broke my network wizard! Sad

I tried it out but it didn't find my wireless nic automatically (unlike the standard one which always does) so I added it manually (it's ipw3945 if relevant). I then restarted X but it didn't start at all - completely blank screen not even a console with a # prompt! So I re-booted (had to run xwin manually) and the network wizard was there didn't actually do anything. So I removed the new package but sadly it's still the same. The network wizard is still in the setup menu but nothing happens when you click it.

The system where this happens is 2.17 with the EZPup "eye-candy" package added.

Help, please!

Luckily I have another partition with 2.17.1 where I haven't changed anything, so that's what I'm using to post this. BTW; I've had no dhcp or any network issues with this setup Smile .

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2007, 19:18    Post subject:  

I'm trying to unload the orinoco driver to see if the hostap one will work for me. The orinoco has always worked before, but I'm having trouble with the redirection to wireless login at my university. In 2.17 (what I have loaded now) it auto loads the orinoco driver. In 2.17.1 it loads the hostap driver, but in 2.17.1 I cannot get an IP (I can get one in 2.17 just fine). I want to see if it is the hostap driver or 2.17.1 that is causing the IP problem. If it isn't hostap, I'm hoping that using it will solve the redirection problem.

Anyway, the orinoco driver won't unload. It keeps telling me that it is in use. I am using the same command that was listed above. Is there some command to force it to unload?

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2007, 19:43    Post subject:  

SirDuncan wrote:

Anyway, the orinoco driver won't unload. It keeps telling me that it is in use. I am using the same command that was listed above. Is there some command to force it to unload?


Might work
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=137418#137418
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=136407#136407

I'm quite confused at this point also..having read this.. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=140110#140110

Anyone know what chip is in my netgear ma401ra "ISL37300P", "Eval-RevA"?

- that 's working in pup98 & (tested so far good to go) in 2.17, but no wep (mess's it up)..with the in the pup vers used.. orinoco_cs driver.

Hostap_cs is loading manually in 2.17 (& others) but no wifi interface shows up.

I'd also like to know if anyone is using a 16 bit pcmcia card in pup with wep & what card that might be?

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2007, 21:13    Post subject:  

That allowed me to load the hostap instead. Thanks!

Unfortunately, the hostap cannot get an IP. So it is the hostap module that is screwy, or, more likely, my card is not actually intended to use it. In which case, I wonder why 2.17.1 automatically loads hostap for it? 2.17 seemed to realize that the orinoco driver was the correct one.

Jonyo, I had said that doubt it made a difference, but I wanted to know for sure. That is why I was trying to load hostap in 2.17. In 2.17.1 I could not get an IP (which I now know to be caused by the driver, not 2.17.1). I can't get either to redirect to the wireless login page, but I at least get an IP with 2.17 (or, more precisely, with the orinoco driver).

I hope that cleared up the confusion. I'm afraid that I sometimes have trouble articulating myself.

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