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How to hide the booting process?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 02:29    Post subject:  How to hide the booting process?  

I want to ask that how to skip or hide the loading process while booting into puppy.
thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 02:39    Post subject: Re: how to hide the booting process  

Anonymous wrote:
I want to ask that how to skip or hide the loading process while booting into puppy.
thanks!


More info needed if you please:

How are you booting Puppy? For example, with cd disc, with grub on floppy, with tiny.exe, with lilo, with grub on mbr, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 03:05    Post subject:  

thank you for your mention
I use IDE adapter with CF card boot from IDE, I brun a CD that is include version 1.0.3 and follow the CD's instruction to do that.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 03:30    Post subject:  

Anonymous wrote:
thank you for your mention
I use IDE adapter with CF card boot from IDE, I brun a CD that is include version 1.0.3 and follow the CD's instruction to do that.


I'm trying to figure out brun is a typo, is so, does it mean 'burn' or 'run'. I'll go with 'run'.

If this is the case, not much you can do.

There are methods of creating your own custom CD and many Puppy users do so. This seems to me to be the most viable option, perhaps the only one.

Maybe other users have better suggestions, because I wasn't much help.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 03:42    Post subject:  

Turn off your monitor and wait 5 minutes until puppy has fully booted to hide the boot process.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 10:40    Post subject:  

Don't be so mean blade. Wink

I was going to recommend the same but only wait 2 minutes. Very Happy

Although I've never booted from a CF card, maybe 5 minutes is accurate. My live CD takes 1 minute, my HDD installation takes 30 seconds.

An alternative is to turn on the computer and go prepare a sandwich and milk (Or hard liquor for some people). That will serve two purposes. You won't see the puppy boot instructions and you will have a more pleasant puppy experience.

You see... Linux is about choices, you can choose not to look at the screen.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 12:52    Post subject:  

I'd like to ask the question too... Is there any way to hide the boot-up lines that flash up the screen? I can't read things going by that fast, why show them? Would the boot-up speed get any faster if the system was not worrying about displaying the progress? I know there isn't much that can be done about how long the OS takes to load into RAM, likewise about loading /home from a USB device, but are there any speed benefits by not printing the commands/results to the display? I actually think that this question can be looked at for reasons other than cosmetics. I do think that this data should be visable during the first boot (or during testing) in case there is a problem and the progress/error is shown, but if it works, why keep showing it if you don't have to?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 12:55    Post subject:  

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but are there any speed benefits by not printing the commands/results to the display?


Not showing it would be more expensive.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 14:44    Post subject:  

Well, you could go into /etc/rc.d and go through the scripts there and just comment/delete any lines that say echo. That would get rid of much of it, and wouldn't insrease strain at all.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 15:09    Post subject:  

rarsa - If you say so, I'll take your word for it since I don't know one way or the other and I believe you know what you are talking about.

Pizzasgood - Interesting concept. Any idea how many lines that would be? Also, is this something we would really want to recommend to new Puppy users?

Since it doesn't appear that boot speed can be affected in this mannor... If commenting out lines in the rc.d would reduce the number of lines of code displayed during the boot process, maybe a simple boolean test of "is there a pup00x file?" If yes, and if the last shut down was clean, use the commented out rc.d; otherwise, use the normal rc.d file. Just rambling on here... I don't know what the answer is, could be, or should be... I'm just so glad that Puppy works!
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 19:37    Post subject:  

You wont get rid of the kernel messages without patching the kernel......But why do ppl get so hung up about boot messages ?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 20:40    Post subject:  

Beats me. But don't take it personal Bladehunter, it's not you, it's them. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 21:45    Post subject:  

From what I can tell, they seem to think displaying text as it starts is either "primitive" or "scary." I think text is cool, but I don't count because I'm weird. It's all the fault of WindowsXP. Everyone just assumes that if it is how Gates does it, it must be right. I think Gates is getting senile, but that's just me. Smile

I have no idea how many lines that would be, but I guess you could write a script to find and remove them if you were ambitious enough. It shouldn't be too hard for a beginner. Look through a file, see echo, add a # to the beginning of the line. Procede to the next file. Reboot to have only limited text messages, and a dumbed down puppy Sad

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 23:54    Post subject:  

babbs wrote:
...I can't read things going by that fast, why show them?

My complaint exactly!

babbs wrote:
...I actually think that this question can be looked at for reasons other than cosmetics. I do think that this data should be visible during the first boot (or during testing) in case there is a problem and the progress/error is shown, but if it works, why keep showing it if you don't have to?

I agree. It would be nice if the boot screen had some practical use. For example, for troubleshooting purposes it would be great if one could step through the boot process. That is, the computer would wait after running each step of the boot process until the "Enter" key is hit to run the next step. Once that option exists, perhaps it wouldn't be too hard to add a checkbox that says "Do not show boot messages." Surprised

Bladehunter, how hard would it be to add the ability to single-step through the boot process?
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2005, 00:38    Post subject:  

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My complaint exactly!
Why complain? If it is just a few seconds, how does that affect your user experience.

I try to look at it from different angles and I really cannot see how text showing fast can affect someone.

If you don't want to read it, don't read it. If you cannot read it, don't try to read it.

I agree with bladehunter. There are many other more important things that need attention in Puppy.

Actually, I'm giving up, the effort given to these posts, can be better used in other tasks.
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