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2.20 Alpha "Happy"
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 13:36    Post subject:  2.20 Alpha "Happy"
Subject description: Bugs and testing
 

thought I would have a go at an Alpha of Photon (based on the pre-alpha 2.20)
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=LinuxTmxxinePhoton

I set up murgalua, xbasic, python and the dev-220.sfs as a test.

Just before running Dougals remaster script, I thought it best
to save my settings (I was running from CD with the
Code:
puppy pfix=ram
option

Much to my surprise on the reboot, all kinds of save files
were available from sub directories (this is a known upgrade in 2.20) and even an external USB hard drive . . .
but where was the file I had just saved? . . . maybe I made a mistake - settings lost Confused

No matter - it is a bit early for Photon Smile

However . . . I do find the multiple save files VERY useful but for the life of me can not remember what is what.
It might already have been suggested that we are offered a variable name?

eg. What is the name of this save file? (press enter for default)
In this way Aunty Maude, Rufus the dog and LinuxBoy can all have a save file with a specific and memorable name.
I of course can use names like 2.20_Happy_Photon_test

Did Nathan do something like this or suggest it?

Seamonkey with spell checker - I like it!
Hope that stays

Smile

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veronicathecow


Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 530

PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 15:57    Post subject:  

Hi Barry, new Pup looks good. One hiccup so far. On my install it sits and waits for 30 seconds after this line "Input: usb HID V111 mouse on usb 0000:00:0a 1-2" ....... (or there about I can't read my own writing!)
Any chance of an easy way to enable full debug O/P on boot for us "techies?" to fiddle on finished Pups?
1440*900 24 Bit worked flawlessly from start (Never got it to work before, excellent)
Atols nice, hope it stays.
DHCP seems quicker but perhaps you could try backgrounding it again?
Boot time on Althlon 2ghz (xp3200) 512 RAM (Installed on a SATA partion Frugall) 36 seconds
Many many thanks for your hard work.
Tony
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andrei

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 01:10    Post subject: problem with Xorg
Subject description: letters look fuzzy; pixel clock problem; maybe solved
 

Looks like a problem with Xorg. Fonts look fuzzy. Some letters are fuzzy. It seems like parts of letters "hit between pixels". I hope it is clear what I mean, I do not know what is a scientific word for it. At first I thought I set wrong resolution. But upon checking it, resolution is set correctly.

I was able to correct this by adjusting the "pixel clock" setting of the monitor. This is a hardware setting. The monitor has small buttons, which activate the menu. The pixel clock is under "Image settings". So, problem solved for me. But it is strange that Xorg does not set this automatically.
Dell desktop, with Dell LCD monitor 1280x1024

Actually, I had this problem before, but less severe. What I had before was incorrect positioning, both horizontal and vertical. I observed a very strange phenomenon. I have two computers, a laptop and a desktop. Two very different machines, different screen resolution. Never had a problem with the laptop. It is the desktop Dell that first gives incorrect monitor settings. I run Puppy from USB flash, the same Puppy on two machines. The strange thing is, if I first boot Puppy on the laptop, then I later do not have any problems on the desktop. After running from the laptop, desktop monitor settings come out right the very first time.
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raffy

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 05:10    Post subject: colorful but no Internet  

It's nice to see the colorful icons back. Smile

However, my 8139too card cant be handled by the drivers. I will try again...
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gray


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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 06:00    Post subject: Xvesa problem  

Tried to run xvesa video-wizard. Works OK but wont exit using the accept button.

I know what the problem is though. In the welcome procedure the killall wavplay line should have an & at the end ( line 126 ).

I have ammended the script and attached here.

Edit: There are still scripts using xmessage that can be updated to use gxmessage and so look much better (chooselocale, floppy-format.sh and resizepfile.sh).
video_wizard.tar.gz
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 06:21    Post subject:  

Gray
Why do you need to kill wavplay anyway?

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 06:40    Post subject: Re: problem with Xorg
Subject description: letters look fuzzy; pixel clock problem; maybe solved
 

andrei wrote:
Fonts look fuzzy
Generally my fonts look OK but the text in the startup background is fuzzy. The image looks OK when viewed in mtPaint at 100% zoom. The anti-aliasing is causing the problem, but I don't really understand why. I have been experimenting doing screen captures of text, the images look fine in mtPaint and qiv but the anti-aliasing is fuzzy when used as a desktop background.

Not a big problem, and don't want to dwell on it here. I just wondered if someone knew why? I suppose I should repeat tests in an earlier puppy.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 07:37    Post subject: video-wizard
Subject description: kill wavplay
 

HairyWill : Dunno for sure why we need to kill wavplay - it was in the original script that I converted to use Gnocl. It does the bark sound on first boot and there was a note saying that on some machines it wont shut up with the yapping.
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Fox7777


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 12:38    Post subject: Re: 2.20 Alpha "Happy"
Subject description: Kernel panic
 

On all computers we tried, desktop or laptop, we got the following error message during bootup:

Loading the 'pup_220.sfs' main puppy file...
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

Thanks, http://www.Linux-Now.us
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HairyWill


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 12:40    Post subject:  

Anyone having problems doing a pup_save resize.
I'm sure I managed one as my pup_save is 96MB but now it fails.
Here is the output from the tool that creates the resize file
Quote:
Okay, you have chosen to increase pup_save.2fs by 131072 Kbytes,
however as the file is currently in use, it will happen at reboot.

Technical notes:
The required size increase has been written to file pupsaveresize.txt,
in partition ext2 (currently mounted on ).
File pupsaveresize.txt will be read at bootup and the resize performed
then pupsaveresize.txt will be deleted.

You can keep using Puppy. The change will only happen at reboot.
Click OK to exit...
It doesn't seem to know where /mnt/home is. The pupsaveresize.txt file gets written to / instead of the top level of the partition.

I've had a look at /usr/sbin/resizepfile.sh
Has the format of PUPSAVE in /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE changed because the SAVEPART variable is being initialised to the partition type instaed of its location

in PUPSTATE
Code:
PUPSAVE='hda3,ext2,/pup_save.2fs'
in /usr/sbin/resizepfile.sh
Code:
 SAVEPART="`echo -n "$PUPSAVE" | cut -f 2 -d ','`" # "

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 15:08    Post subject:  

Two issues so far with 2.20alpha. XVESA start up requires TEST to be run to change default resolution and even then, the old Woof Woof overlay comes up on top of the new one at 640x480, regardless.

And, Barry - please, please: real cfdisk! This is too important to me even for a pre-alpha. I must have it - simple as that....
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 18:18    Post subject:  

Quote:
Anyone having problems doing a pup_save resize.


Seems like I saw a few complaints on this for 2.17 or maybe 2.16, so it's not new I think.
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pdrito

Joined: 18 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 19:25    Post subject:  Can't use multisession disc.  

Hi friends.

The facts:
1.- I dont have hardisk
2.- I have 1.5 GB memory ram
3.- Always I work with a multisession Puppy disc (CD or DVD)
4.- I load puppy 2.20Alpha iso from a multisesion format disc. No problem.
5.- I configure country, xorg, and net server. No problem
The issue:
When I try to reboot, It supossed to ask for record the changes on CD... but
when start the routine record messages, finally It start to ask for a NEW CD, because the used one is full, and IS TIME FOR A NEW DISC.
What is happening ?
It is a bug ?
It is my fault or I miss something ? (again).

I like to try this alpha puppy , but I stuck with this.

regards.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 16:53    Post subject:  

Pdrito, you're not alone. 2.20 didn't work for me on a multisession DVD+RW. It gave me the same result as you got.

Also, 2.02 doesn't recognize my USB keyboard at boot (neither did 2.17) and I noticed that Pawdioconverter is gone from the Multimedia menu.

On the good side of the ledger, 2.20 is the first Puppy that uses my 1360x768 LCD monitor at full screen resolution.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 17:00    Post subject: Re: problem with Xorg
Subject description: letters look fuzzy; pixel clock problem; maybe solved
 

HairyWill wrote:
...Generally my fonts look OK but the text in the startup background is fuzzy. The image looks OK when viewed in mtPaint at 100% zoom. The anti-aliasing is causing the problem, but I don't really understand why. I have been experimenting doing screen captures of text, the images look fine in mtPaint and qiv but the anti-aliasing is fuzzy when used as a desktop background.

Not a big problem, and don't want to dwell on it here. I just wondered if someone knew why? I suppose I should repeat tests in an earlier puppy.

I noticed that too. I used mtPaint to add "2.17" and "2.20" to the bird background. It looks sharp in mtPaint but fuzzy on the desktop. I guessed it was something to do with jpeg compression but didn't investigate any farther.
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