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Be "Happy" - New Alpha TESTING released
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veronicathecow


Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 533

PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 20:01    Post subject:  

Hi Barry, new Pup looks good. One hiccup so far. On my install it sits and waits for 30 seconds after this line "Input: usb HID V111 mouse on usb 0000:00:0a 1-2" ....... (or there about I can't read my own writing!)
Any chance of an easy way to enable full debug O/P on boot for us "techies?" to fiddle on finished Pups?
1440*900 24 Bit worked flawlessly from start (Never got it to work before, excellent)
Atols nice, hope it stays.
DHCP seems quicker but perhaps you could try backgrounding it again?
Boot time on Althlon 2ghz (xp3200) 512 RAM (Installed on a SATA partion Frugall) 36 seconds
Many many thanks for your hard work.
Tony
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cb88


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 20:30    Post subject:  

barry it wouldn't even finish booting in virtualbox and the md5 checked out it got stuck at pivot root and was slow in the other parts also i just tried to run 2.17.1 in virtualbox and it stops at creating unionfs maybe the kernel is to blame not sure

i thought i had booted 2.17.1 in VB but maybe not i know it booted better on some P4 HT PCs than the old kernel it is kind of frustating isn't it.

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SirDuncan


Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 20:45    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
No, the 2.20alpha has the latest, 2.6.21.5 kernel. I have a future plan to *also* release a 2.20 with the older kernel.


I see, so it is not the kernel. I wonder what it could be then. As I said, this problem existed for the orinoco_cs driver before, but in 2.17 it was fixed. The eepro100 has always worked just fine in the past.

I never figured out what caused it before, so I doubt I will be able to find out now (it might not even be caused by the same thing). However, I full confidence in your ability to fix it, Barry.

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davec51

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 491
Location: Virginia

PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 21:29    Post subject: My Experience with Happy
Subject description: Some problems
 

I booted 2.20 on my old P II computer, 192RAM (1999 vintage) using pfix=ram. For the first time with puppy, I was able to use XORG instead of XVESA on this computer, though the difference in graphic quality wasn't particularly noticeable. However, I couldn't connect my network or access the web. The wizard failed to find a driver. I remembered that older versions found something called "tulip," so I tried that manually, but no luck. And no luck with any of the other drivers offered (I didn't try all of them).
I booted up a newer computer (P IV, 1G RAM, 2006 vintage) with pfix=ram. This time, XORG configuration led to a blank screen (the monitor just cut out). VESA was fine. Everything else worked; I'm using 2.20 now to write this).
Bootup on both machines was a bit slow, with a "fail" at "switch root" and a 60-second pause.
I hope some of this is helpful.
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kirk

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2007, 22:52    Post subject:  

Quote:
...with a "fail" at "switch root" and a 60-second pause.


Me too. Says can't mount /sys. But only when booting ram-only.

Also about a 15 sec delay at

fuse init (API version 7.Cool


Tried compiling the synaptics module, missing many headers Xi.h etc. Anyone know where to get all of the Xorg include files? Been looking for a binary, no luck so far. Hard to live without synaptic. Thought 2.17's desktop ikons looked sharper. The spell checker in SeaMonkey is VERY NICE. I kant spel.
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bobwrit


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 17:53    Post subject:  

I'm dloading it now.A test of a full HD install soon.
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nyu


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 21:35    Post subject:  

Hi,

Burniso2cd seems not working. When I click the program from Menu--->
Multimedia, it pops out a window asking me to choose CD or DVD. After
I chose my burner, it pops out another window with a lot of messages.
Am I doing something wrong?
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WN2A


Joined: 02 Jun 2007
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 22:12    Post subject: Be "Happy" New Alpha 2.20
Subject description: Alpha issues
 

Here's my post from developer's forum:

Monday, September 3, 2007, 10:37 PM
OK, Here's the scoop (2.20-alpha-seamonkey Live CD):

1) Tried 2.20 first on the workhorse Dell XPS R400 (PII).
CD boots, screen goes blank after setting up Xorg for 15" CRT.
Video card: Diamond Fire GL1000. Same card does fine with Puppy
2.14/2.15CE/2.16/2.16.1/2.17 (and 98se/XP)

2) Replace video card with Trident 3Dimage 975 on same PII. Now
Xorg sets up OK, desktop appears. Puppy 2.20 looks great,
and all other OS's also OK.
(I use multiple HD mobile racks)

3) Another test, different PC. This time HP/Compaq d530 (P4).
No problems, 2.20-alpha-seamonkey Live CD runs super.

OK with Trident card on the PI, but what changed from 2.17 to 2.20?
Could it be Xorg or Xwin desktop ? Test repeats same result.

Looks like another fine Puppy!
WN2A

PS: Soundcard driver missing in 2.20. Turtle Beach Montego
It worked for 2.14/2.15CE/2.16/2.16.1/2.17.

PPS: Yet another PC, a PIII 1.2GHz. 2.20 goes into kernel panic at boot


(Oh well, that's why they call it alpha!)'Sad')

WN2A
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ralphv

Joined: 17 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 23:01    Post subject:  

2.20 needs an IRC, weebo, doesn't have IRC.

Tried out some slax modules today.
http://www.slax.org/modules.php

I downloaded two modules and renamed them
to .sfs files and used BootManager to load them
at bootup. Tried two games, couldn't figure out
one of them. LTris works pretty good. You might
need the SDL libs for a lot of the games.

Ralph
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 23:24    Post subject:  

ralphv wrote:
2.20 needs an IRC, weebo, doesn't have IRC.


Chatzilla in Seamonkey under tools

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ralphv

Joined: 17 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2007, 23:30    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
ralphv wrote:
2.20 needs an IRC, weebo, doesn't have IRC.


Chatzilla in Seamonkey under tools


But newbies to Puppy won't know that, and won't be
able to find #puppylinux on irc.freenode.net

Ralph
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 3411
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 02:55    Post subject:  

Droopy install...not a happy one:

Customers machine Gigabyte............ with Sata 2 connections

Puppy 2.20 and 2.17 a no show.
Failed in booting...couldn't find their own files on CD.

Booted with USB CD drive...success, but cannot see hard drive.
This is a must for me to rescue XP files.

Newest Damm Small Linux..what is all the fuss about?
tried it on my main computer as a comparison, which boots..Ho! Hum!
but on this Gigabyte ....fails

PC Linux 2007........................fails

Ophcrack.latest August 2007..........fails

.................................

Replaced Sata DVD with IDE.....as probs with XP Nero Burner

2.17 and 2.20 boot....noticeable speed issue with 2.20,
Seamonkey seems slower etc....still cannot mount, let alone see
my XP partitions
.................................

Now trying Mepis antiX M7 Beta2 on IDE LG DVD Writer

( Barry please never change the way we don't have to login to Puppy )

....demo...demo to login.............
irritating as it did not match what it said at Bootup

but at least I can see my two partitions in Mepis as

Drives C:\ SDA1

Drive D:\ SDA5

and can read / write to them....hooray.

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Specs:

Pioneer Sata DVD Writer
(relaced with LG IDE DVD writer )


1 gig 667 memory

SATA Western Digital 160GB WD1600AAJS 8MB cache


CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140 CPU, 1.6 GHz,
FSB 800MHz, 1MB Cache, 65W, Socket LGA775

Gigabyte GA-VM900M
1. LGA775
2. Support Intel® Core™ 2 Duo/Pentium® D/Pentium® 4 Processor
3. Supports 1066/800/533MHz FSB

Chipset

1. Northbridge: VIA P4M900 Chipset
2. Southbridge: VIA 8237A Chipset
3. Realtek 8201CL (10/100 PHY)
4. VIA 1708A HD Audio codec

Memory

1. 2 DIMM memory slots (supports up to 4GB memory)
2. Supports 1.8V DDR DIMM
3. Supports DDR2 667/533/400 DIMM

* Due to standard PC architecture, a certain amount of memory is reserved for system usage and therefore the actual memory size is less than the stated amount.
Internal I/O Connectors

1. 1 24-pin ATX power connector
2. 1 4-pin ATX 12V power connector
3. 1 FDD connector
4. 2 UDMA ATA 133/100/66/33 connectors
5. 2 Serial ATA connectors
6. 2 Cooling fan pin headers
7. 1 front panel connector
8. 1 front audio connector
9. 1 HDA_SUR connector
10. 1 CD IN connector
11. 1 SPDIF IN/OUT connector
12. 1 COMB connector
13. 2 USB 2.0/1.1 connector (supports 4 ports)
14. 1 Power LED connector
15. 1 Chassis Intrusion(CI) connector

Expansion Slots

1. 1 PCI Expressx16
2. 1 PCI Expressx1
3. 2 PCI slots

Back Panel Connectors

1. PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse
2. 1 LPT port
3. 1 serial port (COMA)
4. 1 VGA port
5. 4 USB 2.0/1.1 ports
6. 1 RJ45 ports
7. 3 Audio jacks (Line-out / Line-in / MIC in)

Form Factor

1. micro ATX
2. 24.4cm x 23.3cm
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Cheap All in one motherboard...$75
All up $435.00..dirt cheap for its performance
but useless to me if I can't use Puppy.

I will try and post you different CDs to try out,
and thanks again Mr K.

Regards Chris

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 04:58    Post subject:  

nyu wrote:
Burniso2cd seems not working. When I click the program from Menu--->
Multimedia, it pops out a window asking me to choose CD or DVD. After
I chose my burner, it pops out another window with a lot of messages.

I discovered that this morning. The culprit is the 'cdrecord' program. There is a line in burniso2cd that runs 'cdrecord -scanbus', and certain information is extracted from that, except that pup 2.20 has a recent version of cdrtools (the package that has cdrecord) which outputs information in a different format than the version used in earlier puppies -- which stuffs up the script.

One really annoys me is that it isn't even a minor number change in cdrtools, just a different alpha-version-number. It is so, so annoying.

What other scripts use cdrecord?
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HairyWill


Joined: 26 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 05:30    Post subject:  

BAD DOGGY
booted my manual frugal install in the root of the partition
got offered a choice of pup_saves
chose 0 none
when shutting down
invited to create a pup_save
chose the boot partition that already had a pup_save in its root
the existing pup_save.2fs was overwritten
If I had anything in it I would have been upset.

There is no menu entry for gtkmoz, not sure if this is needed or not

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 06:02    Post subject:  

du command is missing, presumably just needs linking to busybox
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