Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

ljones · Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 47

Hello all!

Smile

Not posted here in ages! I have been using puppy "off-and-on" for a little while now, since the older 1.x versions; my main distro is Slackware 11 (32-bit) and Slamd64 (64-bit).

But what I was thinking of is this -- maybe this is a good idea for a distro or prehaps someone's already done it?

How's about having some sort of minimal version of puppy with no apps (but with all the drivers and X windows as normal and a window manager (xfce? Smile

) ) but also with the ability to add extra files (dot pups?) to it so it can be expanded, and that it could also be remastered or installed to HD -- a sort of "opt-in" system.

I understand there's puppy unleashed which lets you choose how much (or how little) you want to install, but it is very hard to know which files you can remove and which ones would be needed. Sort of an "opt-out" system I guess?

Can such a thing whereby files are added, rather than removed be created or does such a puppy distro already exist?

ljones

Everitt · Posted: Sat 01 Sep 2007, 18:23 Post subject:

Give MicroMuppy a try. I'm not sure what version of puppy it's based on though.

alienjeff · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA

MicroMuppy is 1.xx-based

BarelyPup is 2.xx based

KF6SNJ · Posted: Sat 01 Sep 2007, 20:11 Post subject:

I checked out micropuppy, pretty cool. I also noticed in one of the threads a mention of "picopuppy", a puppy with no gui. I am almost tempted to see if I can't try my hand at creating that puppy, but I think I would mess it up, so I will leave it for somebody else. I still remember puppy 0.7. That was the distro that helped me to save my church's website and keep up on e-mail for nearly three months when my hard drive crashed. Prior to that I was a redhat user. I recently gave pclinuxos a test drive. I was less than impressed. I am now staying with puppy. Still, the idea of a "picopuppy" with links as its standard web browser is a tempting idea.....

MU · Posted: Sat 01 Sep 2007, 20:13 Post subject:

picopup:
http://puptrix.org/isos/pico_pup.zip (8 MB, based on Puppy 1.0.x)

Mark

KF6SNJ · Posted: Sat 01 Sep 2007, 20:16 Post subject:

well, if somebody else has already done it, then I guess I don't have to. I may try creating a puppy based on a thread I started elsewhere, but I need to learn more about robot control software........

ljones · Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 47

Completely forgot about this post! Oops Smile

!

I did look at micromuppy though it seemed to have problems, most noticably alsa won't configure properly. Also I wonder how much it'll work with modern stuff being 1.x based (though I really only need the basics: screen (no 3d!), sound, hd, keyboard, mouse). I looked at picopup too, but it has no X at all x.x . Barelypup comes in at ~30MB and I wonder if I can knock that filesize down a bit? It's almost as big as "normal" puppy with the drivers!

(Slightly OT: I found this http://gentoo-wiki.com/TinyGentoo for making a 'tiny gentoo' linux but it seems to be *very* complicated x.x ) .

A refinement/change of my idea in the original post -- I was thinking about getting hold of an emulator -- let's say VICE's x64 (C64) emulator, and then have a very small puppy start X and boot x64 automatically. No other apps, just the emulator.

I did thinking about using puppy unleased (will that do what I'm thinking of?) but it's knowing just which files to remove and to keep -- very confusing x.x .

ljones

Lobster · Posted: Thu 13 Sep 2007, 21:19 Post subject:

I am sure you are aware of Barry's page
http://www.puppyos.com/puppy-unleashed.htm

these are my efforts at using unleashed - will have another go soon Smile

http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=LinuxTmxxineUnleashed

Once set up and using the unleashed script, it is indeed useful to know what packages do, otherwise the defaults are best

Smile

ljones · Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 47

I'll have a look at your page there and yeah I've seen barry's page there. It's just working out what can be removed -- only thing I'm thinking of is how can you work out what can (and can't) be removed? Sometimes there's dependency problems, i.e. package X can depend on Y and Y on X so how can I work out can be removed?

ljones

reckrhodes · Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 116

Hi ljones!

There is a fat free version of puppy 2.17 and it looks so great for a minimal distro. ISO is only 53M.

Big Bass did it very well.

This is the link http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=143265&sid=e83786f40270fe94e157022570802d1a

friedl · Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 1

Hi LJones,

> A refinement/change of my idea in the original post -- I was thinking about
> getting hold of an emulator -- let's say VICE's x64 (C64) emulator, and
> then have a very small puppy start X and boot x64 automatically. No other
> apps, just the emulator.

I have dreamt about this before - would be a really great idea. I do not want to spend any money to get some C64 hardware but would really like to show my son how I spent my youth - and maybe we could both try to get some little BASIC programs running or even a simple game. Anyway.

How can we procede? Did you try to get something running? Even if it has some unnecessary bits and pieces in the first version. No problem, can be stripped off later.

Any ideas welcome,
Friedl

macadavy · Posted: Tue 16 Oct 2007, 23:06 Post subject:

There are several 'minimal' Puppys. Check 'em out here, where all the Puplets are listed: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puplets

hrnick · Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 2

Lobster · Posted: Fri 27 Feb 2009, 08:30 Post subject:

Barebones Puppy
http://puppylinux.org/downloads/puplets/barebones-pup-412

hrnick · Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 2