SMP & 64 Bit

[tempestuous]

Full marks for attempting a 64bit rebuild of Puppy, but if the project gets too complex you might be interested in a 64bit port of Slackware -
http://slamd64.com/index.php?page=about

[halfmeg]

tempestuous wrote:

you might be interested in a 64bit port of Slackware -

Slamd64 is using an older GCC and glibc IIRC. I have been using Vector 5.1 for over a year now for MythTV, but only with a single core and the Intel HDA sound isn't fully enabled in the kernel Vector is using. Another TV card I have not yet installed needs a later kernel as well. I figured playing with Puppy would be better than killing my Myth box.

So the compiles have finished and I have this output:

Finishing build.
-> Creating package database ...
!> Binary file for abiword-2.4.5.tar.gz not present. Skipped in package database.
!> Binary file for afpl-ghostscript-8.54.tar.gz not present. Skipped in package database.
!> Binary file for alsa-tools-1.0.11.tar.gz not present. Skipped in package database.
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-> Creating output image ...
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Some of these were downloaded and skipped compiliation due to checksum mismatch ( possibly no longer on T2 but retrieved from original URL ). Some had strange prefix error message output during build and build aborted.

Remember this is still original Puppy devx_217.sfs and T2 build scripts with no changes since Sep 2006.

Phil

[Dougal]

I don't think it could find this one anywhere ( T2 mirror or original URL ).

142.700 graphic afpl-ghostscript 8.54 / extra/printing extra/office 0

Barry just updated it for 2.17, so it's probably on puptrix.org -- a different version. Try going over Barry's blog entries.

Sorry to keep on about this but, as I stated before, T2 has no obligation to provide source to me as I haven't obtained any object distribution from them.

As I mentioned above, you can email Barry and probably get the sources from him (or he'll upload to puptrix what you want). He's not some Hans Reiser or Yorg Schilling or something like that...

Without source control, which some Puppy followers seem to think is someone else's responsibility, there is no stable release base.

There's nothing stable about Puppy.

[tempestuous]

Another TV card I have not yet installed needs a later kernel as well.

I would be interested to know what TV card you're talking about.
Yes, Puppy 2.17 could be a good option for your MythTV setup. But an easier fix might be to upgrade Vector 5.1's kernel. You could even retain a certain level of compatibility with Puppy by using the kernel sources and kernel configuration from Puppy 2.17.

I, too, have MythTV working under Vector 5.1, though I don't have a TV tuner card. I seem to recall that the configuration of mysql was messy.
If you have a high-definition digital tuner card you might be interested to read my comments about MPlayer and XvMC accelerated MPEG2 playback here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13216

the Intel HDA sound isn't fully enabled in the kernel Vector is using.

I think that older versions of ALSA had problems with the Intel HDA chip. Barry reported this problem at one stage on the news page, and I seem to remember that the release of Puppy 2.17 was delayed until ALSA version 1.0.14 was available.
In any case, upgrading ALSA in your Vector Linux installation should fix the problem.

[Sit Heel Speak]

@tempestuous: I'm curious, what vid card do you have?

...since then i've learned that sometimes it's best to go through package by package and build it one's self...i had planned to post them and was pissed i lost them...

I, too, noticed that the T2 sources had disappeared, between the time I first found them and the eventual moment I felt smart enough to use them. It was at that point I decided to start chopping steps up the steep Gentoo face. I expect that full sources will be available from that meta-distro's many mirrors worldwide, for as long as western civilization lasts. However, now that I've seen Barry's and tazoc's posts which enlighten me to the fact that there is such a thing as kernel-src_217.sfs, I anticipate that the job of compiling a ck-patched Puppy kernel under Puppy will be possible. Who knows, I may even succeed in compiling a stable rt-patched

[tempestuous]

Sit Heel Speak,
I only just saw your post now.
I have an nVidia FX5200-based graphics card (Gigabyte GV-N52128DS) in my P2-350 development computer, and onboard Intel i815 in my P3-733 main computer.
The nVidia is totally XvMC compatible. Of course, the proprietary nVidia 3D driver must be used.

[pyrael]

Halfmeg,

Are you still working on a 64bit SMP puppy?

If so, What has been accomplished so far? I'm interested in doing the same thing but not including most of the apps as it appears you are. I'm planning on my build to be for folding at home only. So,I'd like to just keep the desktop (JWM probably) and enough tools/apps for it to work. abiword and most of the apps arent needed for my project.

Basically, I'd like to know what libraries, packages, etc are NEEDED to sucessfully build the OS. I'd assume I should be looking at a smaller list than what puppy currently has. -- By the way, I'm using puppy 3.0 and would like to stick with it

pyrael