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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2007, 23:16    Post_subject:  programming puppy?  

this could be bloated slightly(wiith addition of jdk and an java ide) but what i was think is a version of puppy that has a larger number of languages supported than puppy has right now. languages like c,php,perl, and python
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2007, 23:48    Post_subject:  

I have suggested it a few times. It is a good idea

This is how to create such a version easily
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=DistroCreate

this will give you an indication of the languages available .. .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ProgrammingLanguage

I wonder if it is worth using KDE as the window manager as there are some programming tools that work with that?

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2007, 23:53    Post_subject: Re: programming puppy?  

bobwrit wrote:
this could be bloated slightly(wiith addition of jdk and an java ide) but what i was think is a version of puppy that has a larger number of languages supported than puppy has right now. languages like c,php,perl, and python

There is already an fltkc++.sfs file for those wanting C++ and I'm pretty sure Perl, Python and wxBasic are available in the repositories. PHP is interpreted anyway, isn't it? Then there's murgaLUA, which has a runtime module for Puppy but surely could be used as a full dev environment.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Aug 2007, 23:55    Post_subject:  

for php you have to have the runtime.kdevelop is a good tool(will it work outside of kde through some hacking at the source?)
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2007, 08:37    Post_subject:  

Puppy comes with Perl.

Python is just too big to be included (15MB compressed -- the Puppy sfs is only 67MB).

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2007, 14:13    Post_subject: Re: programming puppy?  

WhoDo wrote:
bobwrit wrote:
this could be bloated slightly(wiith addition of jdk and an java ide) but what i was think is a version of puppy that has a larger number of languages supported than puppy has right now. languages like c,php,perl, and python

There is already an fltkc++.sfs file for those wanting C++ and I'm pretty sure Perl, Python and wxBasic are available in the repositories. PHP is interpreted anyway, isn't it? Then there's murgaLUA, which has a runtime module for Puppy but surely could be used as a full dev environment.
theres devx_216.sfs but when linking it cant find any functions(will ftkc++.sfs solve this?)
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2007, 19:06    Post_subject: Re: programming puppy?  

bobwrit wrote:
theres devx_216.sfs but when linking it cant find any functions(will ftkc++.sfs solve this?)

Probably. PM Tronkel to be sure. He created the sfs and uses the toolkit for development.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2007, 17:04    Post_subject:  

thanks. i'm starting construction on this. the added packages are about 420 and that's without c or kde. total size ithink will be somewhere around a 550 to 650 MB puppy(big i know).
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2007, 17:10    Post_subject:  

anyone willing to donate a mirror?
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2007, 17:43    Post_subject: sfs  

Try http://mooload.com (although it has a 500 MB limit). If you construct an sfs instead of ISO, then the Puppy files won't be there, and will save you ~80 MB.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2007, 22:34    Post_subject:  

bobwrit wrote:
anyone willing to donate a mirror?


An SFS would be ideal. However due to KDE and the massive size of your project this might not be feasible.

Both MU and Pkag will kindly provide mirrors (but you have to upload)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=23727#23727

here is a good post from klu9 about using bittorrent (that might be a good way to go)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=132549#132549

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2007, 13:19    Post_subject:  

i had it almost done yesterday but a power surge came and got rid of all the files(i had everything except kde and the 2.16 core, it was around 800 MB too big to burn onto a standered cd.). it's just too big to be ran in ram with current tech(wait a couple years and it should be fine) and i've have problems uploading to servage mirrors.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2007, 14:56    Post_subject:  

Mooload has an interesting terms of service page...

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Not Found

The requested URL /new/tos.php was not found on this server.


Yeah, I think I can agree to that.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug 2007, 19:43    Post_subject:  

sun dosn't make it easy to enclude jdk in a distro... you have to strip most of it out...
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