Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

iscraigh · Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 276

I appreciated Gekko and Dougal. The difference between them as I read it is that Dougal recognizes that puppy is Barry's and modifies it to suite his needs, giving back to the community @ large and giving Barry useful changes that he may or may not include in future versions. Gekko wants Barry to change how he runs puppy. I think Gekko should consider his own distro (puppy based or otherwise) much like grafpup. Then he could run with it and contribute back to the community and take from the community.

I am a happy puppy

Craig

john biles · Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: Australia

I have a strange feeling that Barry K has some how found a way to digitally drug this version of Linux he calls Puppy.
As I'm Addicted and if I try and play with other versions of Linux, I don't get that same high.
I need my daily fix of Puppy to keep me going.

All I can say is that I am more excited by the propect of Puppy 3 coming out than KDE4

What screenshots and video's I've seen of KDE4 don't excite me, but this won't stop me trying it when it comes out. Also it's their vision of what a Desktop should be, so good for them.

So BARRY K do what ever you please and I like so many others on this forum, will enjoy what ever you decide to give us.

Finally Gekko as I've said privately before maybe it time for "Gekko Linux 2007" that way you could release it every year. I know you have the talent to do it, I for one would like to try what you come up with. Very Happy

Getnikar · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 02:37 Post subject:

Getnikar · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 02:53 Post subject:

Not that I am suggesting this, and I know some here equate being organised with bureaucracy (a common corporate upshot of trying to be organised).

John Doe · Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US

@ Getnikar & Gekko

you 2 to need double check a couple things.

this "barry is a dictator" and/or "holds the key" shit needs to stop.

there are many people here who could rebuild this project thanks to barry.

he's fathered this thing to the point where it's never going to die.

p.s. love Dilbert Laughing

Getnikar · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 03:24 Post subject:

Dougal

Dougal · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 07:07 Post subject:

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MU · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 07:19 Post subject:

Dougal, don't forget Nathan Smile

PSI is just a grafical interface, but it internally uses tools written by others.
For example one of the first versions of Nathans pkgtool.

So we could need some curious people that test newer pkgtools from the new grafpup2 for Puppy, and mabe create a .pet of it with some slight adaptions for Puppy.
Then it would be relatively easy to update PSI to use this updated version.

I think people sometimes oversee, how fast Puppy develops.
Packagemanagers in Suse or Redhat are updated once a year, or more seldom, because those distros appear in 6 month or 1 year cycles.
Puppy releases appear every 2 month.
So people might wonder: "oh a new release, but no new packagemanager?".

Another thing is, that Packagemanagers do not rely on Barry, Nathan, or me.
They are even easier to modify than for example RPM by others, as they are simple scripts, not complicated C code.
They do not rely on persons, they rely on how lazy or enthusiastic the community supports them by applying changes!
For example PSI uses code contributed by Kenneth (the mirror-script).

I often wish, my programs would be "hacked" more often by others.
I'm good in creating a basic infrastructure of a program, so you have something working to start with. But I don't have so much time, to extend them in detail then over a longer period. So I hope, we can interest more coders to contribute patches and updates.

btw., I really do appreciate all the efforts you contribute to puppy Very Happy

Mark

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joki · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 79

i should say from the off that this is defo not a dig. im happy with pup - i just think those w/o *nix skills will likely have trouble doing moderately advanced things with puppy.

i too sympatise with Gekko. however i *hate* the full-on formal development process (ergo my 9-5 often drives me nuts) but when you have a forum area called "bugs" and encourage ppl to post and beta test (on release/final isos) then formal acknowledgement/recording of the bugs is common decency.

imo, all but one of the facets of puppy dev can be performed without a dog collar and leash. A bug tracker is essential - it's acknowledgement to the reporter (literally and in the sense of "we value our user's feedback") I've personally reported problems - there's been no official ack of the bugs so am i to assume they dont exist despite other users reporting similar? (thinking specifically of the 2.16 psubdir). 2.17 didnt work out the box in this respect so think i'll skip 217 - even though i would've liked to try and see if flash9/pupp217/opera9.22 works (another 'kinda bug' reported)

one possible reason why some regular forum members are at odds with the lack of formalism: puppy's getting too good and ppl are starting to think it's in the premier league alongside ubuntu/rh etc

BarryK · Posted: Sun 22 Jul 2007, 09:10 Post subject:

alienjeff · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA