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esmourguit


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 02:27    Post subject:  

Bonjour à tous,

Me to. I am in France, GMT+1 and it seven instead of 8.

I have changed in GMT+2 to have the good one, but my screen became black. I had to press space to come back on the desktop but gxine (playing James Brown) was became mute. I had to go to Puppy Volume Mixer to make changes.

Cordialement. Wink

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kirk

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 09:23    Post subject:  

The devx_217.sfs file does not have a /usr/src folder.

Was going to try compiling the rtl8180, guess I'll wait Smile
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 09:59    Post subject:  

kirk,
Yes, that's because we found it is best to have the entire source, rather than the very cutdown stuff that was in the previous devx.

Um, who did that for us last time? ...converted the kernel source package into an sfs file? ...anyway, that's what we need.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 10:08    Post subject:  

I'm now working on country and keyboard-layout setup...

Lobster, you reported the time was out by one hour.

Check /etc/localtime -- it should be a link to /usr/share/zoneinfo/London
-- right?

If that's right, what else could be wrong... what about the hardware clock on your PC? That is supposed to be set to the local time. This will read the hardware clock:
# hwclock -r

...does that agree with the time in the taskbar?

In London, you are on GMT+0, but are you on daylight saving?
If you are not, try relinking :
# ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT-0 /etc/localtime
#hwclock --localtime --hctosys
...because maybe /usr/share/zoneinfo/London is wrong.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 10:13    Post subject:  

esmourguit wrote:
Bonjour à tous,

Me to. I am in France, GMT+1 and it seven instead of 8.

I have changed in GMT+2 to have the good one, but my screen became black. I had to press space to come back on the desktop but gxine (playing James Brown) was became mute. I had to go to Puppy Volume Mixer to make changes.

Cordialement. Wink

Are you on Paris time?
How did you change the GMT+1 to GMT+2? ...I mean, what did you change?
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kirk

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 11:30    Post subject:  

Quote:
Um, who did that for us last time?


That was me. But just putting the raw kernel source doesn't work. Tried compiling a driver, it complained "ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid." so I ran make oldconfig && make prepare on the kernel source and tried again. This time most of it built, but then it couldn't find /usr/src/linux-2.6.21.5/Module.symvers becuase that hasn't been built. Guess I can build the kernel.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 20:16    Post subject:  

kirk wrote:
Quote:
Um, who did that for us last time?


That was me. But just putting the raw kernel source doesn't work. Tried compiling a driver, it complained "ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid." so I ran make oldconfig && make prepare on the kernel source and tried again. This time most of it built, but then it couldn't find /usr/src/linux-2.6.21.5/Module.symvers becuase that hasn't been built. Guess I can build the kernel.

kirk, okay, thanks for doing that last time. It looks like we will need a sfs with some basic extra stuff in it, like that Module.symvers and System.map. Perhaps what you have done as quoted above, is enough and I just have to send those files. Attached:
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2007, 20:19    Post subject:  

No response from esmourguit and Lobster yet. Where are you guys? Anyone else who has that one-hour-off problem can also answer the post I addressed to Lobster.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 00:07    Post subject:  

I rebuilt the 217 kernel and using the /usr/src/ from the 2.16 devx file as a template, made a new kernel source sfs file. Tested it out by building some wifi drivers. I'll upload it somewhere. It's 52MB.

I'm assuming mksquashfs uses lzma by default now? But you know what assuming does.


PS: The rtl8180 driver source I had mentioned elsewhere, builds with the new kernel, but doesn't work. Crying or Very sad I'll see if there are any updates for it in the past week or so.

PS2:

My clock is an hour slow. But we have daylight savings time. I'm in Florida, eastern time zone.

# hwclock -r
Sat Jul 14 00:12:41 2007 0.000000 seconds
#

Task bar clock is 11:13pm jul 13.

/etc/localtime is linked to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Eastern.

Clock is correct when 2.16 or Windows is booted.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 00:37    Post subject:  

kirk,
instead of the rtl8180-sa2400 driver, what about trying the proprietary Realtek wifi drivers -

RTL8185/8187/8187B
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

RTL8180L
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=26&PFid=5&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
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kirk

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 01:17    Post subject:  

Quote:
what about trying the proprietary Realtek wifi drivers -


I've never got them to build. It's a part binary driver made for kernel 2.6.5. The one I had hoped would work for 2.6.21.5 was from here:

http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page

This one builds fine on both 2.16 and 2.17. But when I load the modules it complains about bad symbols and the card doesn't work. They have a forum, I'll do some searching. I uploaded the 217 kernel source sfs file to puppyisos.org and sent Mark a PM.

It's 1:15am Surprised time to sleep.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 01:19    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
esmourguit wrote:
Bonjour à tous,

Me to. I am in France, GMT+1 and it seven instead of 8.

I have changed in GMT+2 to have the good one, but my screen became black. I had to press space to come back on the desktop but gxine (playing James Brown) was became mute. I had to go to Puppy Volume Mixer to make changes.

Cordialement. Wink

Are you on Paris time?
How did you change the GMT+1 to GMT+2? ...I mean, what did you change?


Yes i am in Paris time (GMT +1). Using timezone-set i changed in GMT +2 (Athenes time to have the good time).

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PaulBx1

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 10:01    Post subject:  

Barry, on the time zones you have USA eastern, central and pacific, but there is no USA-mountain zone.

You do have USA-Arizona, which is a state in the mountain time zone. However it is the only state in the mountain zone that does NOT observe daylight savings time. It turns out the time you have for Arizona is now valid in Wyoming, that is, what you have for Arizona IS the same as mountain zone daylight savings time. So it's valid everywhere but Arizona. Smile

Just to make it interesting, the Navajo Nation in NE Arizona DOES observe daylight savings time. Very Happy But I'm guessing there aren't too many Navajos using Puppy, so maybe it's not important.

hwclock -r yields the same time as I see displayed on the task bar (I'm using USA-Arizona).

Is your new time setup supposed to automatically switch between daylight savings time and standard time? Probably not, that would be awfully complex...

In 2.16.1 right-clicking or left-clicking on the taskbar clock launches the ical calendar. I haven't rebooted to check what it does in 2.17 but it might be a good idea for a right-click to go to a routine to set the time...
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 10:46    Post subject:  

Embarassed sorry lost all track of time

From reading your blog and replies here, the situation seems to have resulted in new code . . .

I can confirm that it is not hardware (I am in Linux Tmxxine puplet on the same machine and the time is OK)

Do you still want me to follow your test instructions or await the next beta?

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Leon

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2007, 18:02    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
I'm now working on country and keyboard-layout setup...

Lobster, you reported the time was out by one hour.

I posted this message also at:

http://www.puppylinux.com/news/comments.php?y=07&m=07&entry=entry070714-103103

At first boot I choosed country option:

73 SLOVENIA

After that this error message is displayed:

cannot open file sl.map
...
Pausing for 60 seconds...

After created a new pup_save.2fs file the same error message is displayed at each boot.

If I choose Xorg then the keyboard layout is properly configured in "InputDevice" section of my xorg.conf file to:

Option "XkbLayout" "si"

I use frugal install on FAT32 with Grub4dos.

My menu.lst file:

title Puppy-p2.17a-idehd-pfix-ram-bp217a
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /bp217a/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=bp217a pfix=ram
initrd /bp217a/initrd.gz
boot

It is interesting that there is no error message about missing sl.map file when I upgraded to Puppy 2.17a from my old Puppy 2.16 pup_save.2fs file.

The only problem when using the old pup_save.2fs file is that at every boot the timezone is set to GMT+8.

The timezone for Slovenia is GMT+1.

This is not a problem when using a pup_save.2fs file created by Puppy 2.17a.
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