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BarryK · Posted: Mon 21 May 2007, 19:04 Post subject:

Ah, now I know what the problem is!
The iso is deliberately created without Joliet extensions. Sometime ago this was found to cause problems for the multisession CD/DVD.

Therefore, looking at the CD from Windows, you just see it as MSDOS 8.3 file format, which comes up as all upper-case.

Nothing I can do about that, but I have now modified the 'init' script to detect INITRD.GZ, PUP_216.SFS and ZDRV_216.SFS and change them to lower-case.

But, what about GRUB? The first time you attempt to boot, if you specify 'vmlinuz' and 'initrd.gz', is it case-sensitive at that point, before Linux has loaded? I presume not?

The problem does not occur if the Universal Installer is used, as the CD/DVD does have Rock Ridge extensions (long filename support for Linux). Or if you do a manual install from Linux.

pupshock · Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 140

Grub appears _not_ to be case sensitive before linuz loads:
"linuz" in menu.lst, file LINUZ (uppercase) in the root, could be found.

But after linuz loads:
"initrd.gz" in menu.lst, INITRD.GZ can be found in root but not boot, unless specified: initrd (hd0,5)/boot/initrd.gz (note the lowercase).

pup_216.sfs could never be found, even tho i had renamed them
lowercase. It could be found only when _all 4 files_ were lowercase.

So that explains 2.16.
And by implication the 2.15CE iso had the Joliet extensions.

vanchutr · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 419

I rename the openoffice.2.2.0.sfs to ooffice_216.sfs then put the new one in same place of pup_save.sfs.
Reboot pupy216 and use BootManager ... and add the ooffice_216.sfs.
That will work

bobn9lvu · Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 173

Dougal · Posted: Tue 22 May 2007, 16:07 Post subject:

Barry, maybe the problem with multisession cds could be solved by using the "-r" option in mkisofs, rather than the "-R" option?

BarryK · Posted: Tue 22 May 2007, 20:21 Post subject:

All of the iso creation and burning options used for the live-CD have been worked out over a long time, and everything is the way it is for a reason.

If I recall rightly, the '-r' option clears the write attribute of all files that get written to CD, totally messing up the multisession CD.

kleung21 · Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Toronto, Ontario

The filename/uppercase bug is EXACTLY the issue that I've had with my 2.16 install of Puppy.

I had upgraded from a frugal install; transferring the new Puppy files over to the computer via a memory key.

I had used windows to extract the files onto the memory key for transfer.

For the last 2 days, I have been trying everything I could to get it to boot. Finally had to revert back to 2.12 (an older version I had lying around).

HOWEVER, all of a sudden, it worked today after I tried fiddling around with the files -> couldn't figure out why.

This thread explains it beautifully.

When I was fiddling around/copying the files back and forth; at one point I renamed the files manually... Of course, I type in lowercase.

And thus - 2.16 works now.

Just adding my 2 cents to the ongoing thread.

Dougal · Posted: Thu 24 May 2007, 10:27 Post subject:

Barry, should I remove the "-R" from the remaster script?

tillerman · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Denmark

It seems, that you are all making it work, but I'm still stuck with the .sfs'es.
- 2.16.0 frugal install on a lifting-a-leg-at-OS-box,
- all .sfs-files placed in c:\ together with the rest of the boot-files, being mnt\home in Puppy,
- no boot-subdirs, no changes to any of the boot-files,
- no capital letters in the filenames,
- openoffice-2.2.0.sfs renamed to oo_216.sfs,
- checkbox uncheked and a reboot.
Typing cc in a console-window gives: no filename (not command unknown), suggesting that devx_216.sfs is loaded and working. Good.
Now comes the problem: I do have the OpenOpffice icons in the submenus, BUT! clikcing on them has no effect. Same thing plagued me in the 2.15CE, that is why I took to the 2.16, but at no avail. The problem persist when booting from the CD. Now, that's a bitch, because the .sfs-idea is a good one, and I expect that a graph-sfs will turn up somewhere down the way. Does anyone have suggestions to try? Like when you play the bass-guitar and the loudspeaker-hum goes away when you turn the plug 180 degrees (it works!). Any such voo-doo-grade suggestions?
Tillerman.

BarryK · Posted: Thu 24 May 2007, 20:07 Post subject:

BarryK · Posted: Thu 24 May 2007, 20:09 Post subject:

vanchutr · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 419

openoffice-2.2.0 renamed oo_216.sfs and loaded with Bootmanager. This worked after reboot.
After reboot you can see that. Click on any item the program start immediately

BarryK · Posted: Fri 25 May 2007, 02:57 Post subject:

Yes, but you don't have to rename it. You can use the SFS Boot Manager to choose to load a SFS file with any name. You just have to untick the checkbox and move the required SFS files over to the right pane, click OK then reboot.

tillerman · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Denmark

Barry wrote: