eBoxPup-2.13-0.1alpha released

[lvds]

Hi Raffy,

Ok thank you very much for replying.
As to usb mouse, i had not seen this thread so i will check Dougal's work and will test on my side, thank you very much for pointing me to it, this forum place is so huge

As to syslinux, yes i know where it is in /usr/lib/syslinux but i am looking for why it does not work, as this is also perhaps why puppy universal installer has a few problems and does not install correctly when i choose the "coexist" mode...
I think it is related but i don't know how to solve this.

Best regards,
Laurent.

[lvds]

By the way i am interested in eBox performances as we have many thin clients at work, so could everybody post their Bogomips results from Xproc system information test ? so we could compare with standards pc...

Also does anyone know of something like this but portable with screen and keyboard ? the goal would be to reach the best performance with the minimum noise possible...

Best regards,
Laurent.

[pakt]

I found that sometimes using other Puppy distros i was not able to run syslinux as it reports an error related to mcopy. mcopy reminfs me of something like the mtools for msdos, is it related ? Does syslinux needs mtools to runs fine ?

That would be useful to have syslinux working under puppy linux as i always have to switch to windows to use syslinux.exe

Laurent, your mention of mcopy made me check the wizard script. Yes, the wizard does use mcopy for copying files to a floppy disk. I don't know how that would affect syslinux though. Anyway, I checked the packages I used in eBoxPup and saw that I didn't include the mtools package (which includes mcopy) because it's normally used with floppy drives which the eBox doesn't have.

I don't have the 2.13 unleased packages left on my hard disk and I don't know where you can find them but you could try installing the latest mtools package and see if it works. Here's the link:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... .10.tar.gz
Just download it and install it locally with the package manager.

HTH,
Paul

[pakt]

By the way i am interested in eBox performances as we have many thin clients at work, so could everybody post their Bogomips results from Xproc system information test ? so we could compare with standards pc...

Laurent, I don't think BogoMIPS would actually say a whole lot. Afaik, it's just calculated by multiplying the CPU speed in MHz by 2. For example, my Starbox thin client is running at 333MHz right now. Checking dmesg, BogoMIPS=666.21 (the CPU speed isn't exact so the BogoMIPS result is usually off a little).

Also does anyone know of something like this but portable with screen and keyboard ? the goal would be to reach the best performance with the minimum noise possible...

I think we'll start to see fanless, low-power laptops in the not distant future thanks to the OneLaptopPerChild project and the need for inexpensive computing in the developing world. Once these are mass-produced they'll become available to our part of the world. Linux not Vista will make this possible

Paul

[stephenljk]

Hi, I'm somewhat new to linux and puppy. I've gotten myself a ebox2300 and has installed the eboxpup downloaded from http://www.bexa.org/pup/index.htm#202R, the OS is running fine but can't seems to be able to detect the sound card and run Flash (been trying to view youtube), can anyone help me to solve the problem? Thanks in advance.

[voytek]

bobn9lvu wrote:

You know, all the systems talked about need ONE thing added to make em
viable ( my feelings ) is the ability to add and onboard DVD writer or rom drive...

in-fact they do, just open one up, get a 44pin to 40pin IDE cable, DVD writer, old PC power supply(for the writer), and of you go.

Voytek

[bobn9lvu]

"ONBOARD" is the idea I was trying to express ...


Bob

[hillbillycletus]

I have an ebox 2300, and have tried several different versions of puppy including 2.13 , 2.17 and eboxpup. And they are all very sluggish. However i have also installed windows me, and it works 10x faster, and all the drivers for it are provided by ebox manufacturer. I tend to install and setup an operating system then ghost it, so i can come back to my favorite. DMP also has made a version of linux espically for the ebox called xlinux. It comes as a ghost image or manual install. It doesnt contain Xwindows, but im sure some enterprising person could get it to work on it. I took their xlinux and expanded it by adding packages from spb-linux, slackware 10.2, and debian in some cases. Slackware 10.2 and xlinux use the same kernel version. The xlinux kernel doesnt have a framebuffer compiled in, but you can use a slackware kernel and modules. The mplayer package from spb-linux comes with a framebuffer AND vesa driver builtin so it will work without X or svgalib or framebuffer ! I have got rdesktop under svga lib to work, directvnc under framebuffer to work, links2 graphical browser under svgalib and framebuffer to work. I can boot my ebox2300 into links2 in about 10 seconds. zgv also works good. framebuffer seems to be much faster than svgalib, but i have trouble with my mouse when i have to load usb with modules under a slackware 10.2 kernel, which has framebuffer support. Anyway just adding some of my observations incase it of use to anybody. I may try to integrate puppy and xlinux into a fast ebox 2300 version, but i will have to learn more about puppy first. Links2 seems to be better than dillo for browsing. Anyway thanks for making puppy and eboxpup. Oh i also have booted geexbox on my ebox.

[raffy]

That's a good project hillbilly. Most of Puppy's packages for pre-2.14 versions are available at Barry's packages-1 directory of ibiblio, like here:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... ackages-1/
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... packages-1

As they are tar.gz files, just decompress them and add the files to the proper directories. Every package has a shell script that does the installation.

Maybe you can share now what you've already built so that other forum members can help out directly. I can help in hosting the file/s.
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EDIT: Some interesting links about Console Puppy:

Suggested applications
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3674

Elinks browser
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=671
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=668

[pakt]

I took their xlinux and expanded it by adding packages from spb-linux, slackware 10.2, and debian in some cases.

Anyway just adding some of my observations incase it of use to anybody. I may try to integrate puppy and xlinux into a fast ebox 2300 version, but i will have to learn more about puppy first.

Very interesting! I'd love to try your modified xlinux. Could you provide it as a ghost or iso image? You can contact Raffy to host the file (see his message above).

Integrating xlinux and Puppy sounds like a great project. Please let us know how you get on.

Paul

[hillbillycletus]

Well the ghost images from dmp are less than 3mb at

http://www.dmp.com.tw/tech/os-xlinux/

you can add svgalib from debs from debian, 7zip can open .deb if you make it and you can then extract the data.tar from the data.tar.gz then install it by tar -xf on the ebox. So open the .deb with 7zip search for data.tar in data.tar.gz extract the .tar to the dos partition (the xlinux ghost has two partitions a dos and ext2) then mount it under ebox and copy it to root then extract. Its not too hard. Most packages can be installed that way. Of course dependencies are a pain.

My .gho is 14MB which would take me about 2 hours to upload at home. I will try to thin it down or upload it when i go somewhere with a better connection. BTW the links2 package from spb-linux http://www.spblinux.de/2.0/spblinux1.htm can be run in text mode not requiring directfb.

[soarland]

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[frankpky]

hi all,

I found the lowest price for ebox at http://www.compactpc.com.tw, but :
1. shipping and handling can be quite high depending on where you are;
2. payment by telegraphic transfer to be made in advance; and
3. 1+ month for your order to be ready.

ebox-2300-H (support 2.5

[Bert]

I have prices for other models as well, it there are expressed interests in the prices I'll post them.

Yes please... I would like to know the ebox-4 series prices. Do you have shipping cost estimates, eg to Europe?

Thanks!

[picatrix]

Hi Bert,

I bought mine ebox 4853 from epatec.es (try also epatec.de, depending if you live in northern Europe).

Model 4853 is sold as "firewall", because it has two ethernet interfaces, but it has also a CF reader on IDE2: just set a jumper to work as master, disable lan boot & IDE1 from Bios...and Puppy 2.15CE just flies from the Compact Flash, with 512MB DDr2 Ram & VIA Esther 1.2GHz processor, even with 1280x1024x24 resolution.

The only problem for me, at the moment, is the audio: alsa configurator recognise the soundcard as hda-intel (from the manual it is a AC97v2.2 Via Vynil VT1708), but all is silent...any hint?

Best Regards

Picatrix

[soarland]

SATA to CF Adapter , IDE to CF Adapter , IDE to SD
Websit: http://www.soarland.com

[Bert]

picatrix : Thanks for the info!
I have no idea what causes your audio problem. I remember having audio problems with the Puppy 1.xx versions. Some versions booted with a loudly barking dog, some didn't..
Perhaps you could try a different Puppy? It's strange, because I think the driver is included in 2.15.

Frankpky: thanks for the pm!

[frankpky]

hi all,

I've tested an ebox 3850 during the weekend.

Booted eboxpup from usb pendrive.

Everything works fine except that I'm worrying because the casing heats up a lot. It is as if the casing has been designed to function as a heatsink !!! I had planned to add a HDD to the ebox3850, but if it heats up so much, adding a HDD will make it even worse!!!

Any suggestions/comments welcomed...

I'll be testing the ebox2300/tu40 later.

Btw, how do i get anything to work in puppy when the mouse does not respond ?

Thanks in advance.

[asejua]

Hello all

I've just get an ebox 2300 and installed the eboxpup without problems but I can't put the screen resolution more than 800x600 pixels. I have an hp 17" lcd screen and the lcd's osd shows a message saying the vga adaptor frequency it's out of limits when I try 1024x768 or more tho screen it's prepared to 1280x1024/60hz and the eboxpup X tests says the monitor and vga supports that resolutions.

Using Xorg guess it's a matter of modifying the Xorg.conf (tho don't really know how exactly) and what about Xvesa? Where are the config files for the vesa Xserver?

Any ideas for both systems would be appreciated ^^

Thanks in advance and hope to see you around here again

[raffy]

Frank:

how do i get anything to work in puppy when the mouse does not respond ?

Press CTRL-ALT-BKSP* to get to console, then command

xorgwizard

which will allow you to test your GUI and possibly test the mouse, too. (Search for "mouse and problem" here if the mouse problem persists.)

But the main purpose of this command is enable you to choose Xorg or Xvesa and the screen resolution - I just don't recall if both are available in eboxpup. (If the Xvesa option is not there, try xvesawizard.)
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* The TU is known to reboot with this key combination! Very unusual, as it is just expected to turn off the GUI.