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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 15:32    Post subject:  

Just rename them from <whatever>_215.sfs to <whatever>_216.sfs. I don't know if they'll work in 2.16, but they might. Probably there will be some minor bugs, but they should be okay overall. I'm fairly certain that web_215.sfs will be fine, because I intentionally made it as independent from Puppy 2.15CE as I could. I'm actually using it in Pizzapup 3.0.1 right now. One issue you might have is if Seamonkey will load the Flash and Java plugins from it, as I don't know if 2.16 has Seamonkey in the same spot as 2.15. Firefox will be fine though, since it's contained within the web_215.sfs itself.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 22:11    Post subject: Re backgrounds for Puppy Luv  

Lobster wrote:
Barry also asked for alternative grey backgrounds - the enclosed is 20k - done entirely in Mtpaint and based on a 2.15 background[/i]

I thought he was also interested in "light" backgrounds that will go well with Puppy Luv. Here is my "quick and dirty" response to that request. Razz

http://www.puppylinux.org/user/photogallery.php?photo=243

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 23:54    Post subject:  

Perhaps it is just me but Gparted doesn't seem to function in alpha. I decided to reformat the logical partition where Exp2 was on and it wouldn't reformat! I tried three times and then changed to the experiment 2 disk and reformated without issue.

Another great puppy which seems faster. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2007, 02:07    Post subject:  

In one of the other locations I cited above, I reiterated the argument for an all-black (Kiwi?!), power-saving, life-extending BLACK background default. It looks great, too. Folks with poor sight and oldies will also appreciate this choice for its improved contrast. Black can, of course, be self-selected at any time from the menu. This will also redirect essential effort towards bug-fixing and development rather than breeding yet another generation of amateur artists and graffiti writers....
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2007, 08:51    Post subject: Using .SFS Files  

Pizzasgood wrote:
Just rename them from <whatever>_215.sfs to <whatever>_216.sfs. I don't know if they'll work in 2.16, but they might. Probably there will be some minor bugs, but they should be okay overall. I'm fairly certain that web_215.sfs will be fine, because I intentionally made it as independent from Puppy 2.15CE as I could. I'm actually using it in Pizzapup 3.0.1 right now. One issue you might have is if Seamonkey will load the Flash and Java plugins from it, as I don't know if 2.16 has Seamonkey in the same spot as 2.15. Firefox will be fine though, since it's contained within the web_215.sfs itself.


I renamed the files, but OpenOffice is still missing.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2007, 15:36    Post subject:  

Huh. Well, now I think about it, it could be that new sfs loader people have been talking about. I haven't had time to follow it's development though, so I know little about it. But my gut says look into it.


As for wallpapers, the grey default makes the monitor look like it wants to smother me. Too oppressive. Here's some other ones that have more of a Puppy personality (including a mostly black one):
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/art/wallpapers/puppy/flower/neon.jpg
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/art/wallpapers/puppy/flower/white.jpg
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/art/wallpapers/puppy/flower/bleached.jpg

Also, the beach ones I made previously look okay on it too. If the colors were tweaked a little to be more gray than tan it would be better:
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/art/wallpapers/puppy/sand/sand-800x600.jpg
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/art/wallpapers/puppy/sand/sandtext-800x600.jpg
(alternate sizes of these ones are available on my website, among others)

I haven't made any new ones recently, but if nothing's needed for a week or so I could make a gray/blue one specifically for 2.16 either between or after my exams. I've been itching to play with my new Wacom tablet, but I've been too busy with school lately to do anything. Fortunately next week is finals week.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2007, 19:37    Post subject: Mount .sfs in 216 alpha  

To devc51,
May be you will run the sfsinstaller to install your .sfs file. I'd got the same trouble (as your) when I put the .sfs in /home.
Is that the 216 alpha' bug?
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2007, 23:55    Post subject:  

for sfs files in 216 you need to use the bootmanager to specify which sfs files you want to load - it works a bit differently than the previous versions and just adding the version number in will not help
the bootmananger is found in the system sub-menu and is pretty self explanatory

after choosing what you want you will need to reboot to get them

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2007, 09:52    Post subject: Getting 215.sfs Files to Work
Subject description: Solved! Using Bootmanager
 

vern72023 wrote:
for sfs files in 216 you need to use the bootmanager to specify which sfs files you want to load - it works a bit differently than the previous versions and just adding the version number in will not help
the bootmananger is found in the system sub-menu and is pretty self explanatory

after choosing what you want you will need to reboot to get them

George


I renamed the OO and Web sfs files, ran the bootmanager as Vern suggested, and I have both OO and my beloved Firefox. Nothing was added to my menus, but I just dragged a copy of the icons from /usr/loca/bin to my desktop.
All this strengthens my conviction (probably an illusion) that Puppy can do everything.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2007, 00:52    Post subject: Re: Getting 215.sfs Files to Work
Subject description: Solved! Using Bootmanager
 

davec51 wrote:
... I have both OO and my beloved Firefox. Nothing was added to my menus, but I just dragged a copy of the icons from /usr/loca/bin to my desktop.
All this strengthens my conviction (probably an illusion) that Puppy can do everything.

Your menu entries should show up if you run fixmenus from a console and then restart the WM. Open Office will show as a submenu under Documents. Not sure if Firefox and Thunderbird end up under Internet, but they should.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2007, 03:34    Post subject: earlgrey.jpg - another grey background for 2.16  

Here's a grey background for 2.16 I created in mtPaint that's not too distracting. I called it earlgrey.jpg. It's 1024x768 and only 56K. Download it by right-clicking on the image and choosing 'Save Image As...'

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2007, 08:04    Post subject:  

Showtime!

I like it pakt.

When I first started using it Puppy I was well aware that it had the best most flexible useful structure. It did not look great but it was. From the start Puppy seemed very different. Slowly and gradually we have become a prettier distro. We are kind of the Wii Linux. Not the most glamorous but the most playable . . .

Now then . . . people come to the grey and they 'must change' and they can . . .

I am using 2.16 at the moment and the plain grey is very unobtrusive. Puppy does not belong to the Glitz tradition of Linux but after a visit to the Puppy parlour we have Viz, Grafpup, Rudy, Pizzapup and all manner of enhancement.

I am panting for Beryl . . . Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2007, 13:42    Post subject:  

Still think the evidence for a stunning black background is superior. Indeed, here is a link for a black background:





PS. Sorry, lost concentration for a moment, Lob. Beryl? Tell her if she wants her pants back, she'll have to come around to collect them.....
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2007, 02:09    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Still think the evidence for a stunning black background is superior. Indeed, here is a link for a black background

Sorry, Sage, but ergonomically a light background is superior. Here's an excerpt from Visual Ergonomics in the Office:
Quote:
SCREEN COLORS

* Screen colors: dark letters on a light background.

With the monitor off, look at your reflection in the screen. Now turn the monitor on and select a Windows-type background, (black letters on a white background). Notice that you cannot see your reflection as well.

Contrast is simply the difference in brightness between two images. With a white background, we reduce the difference in contrast between the screen and what is reflected off of it.

Negative screen contrast (black letters/white background) can reduce reflected images, as we saw with the demonstration. A white background also reduces the luminance (brightness) difference between the screen and the surrounding background of a normally lighted office. That makes it easier on your eyes.

Most early monitor screens had a black background with white, green or amber characters. Although white backgrounds were possible, the low quality of the monitors meant that the screen would flicker noticeably. Although newer technology has reduced the necessity, there are still many software programs with dark backgrounds.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2007, 04:39    Post subject:  

We don't have to worry about all that now pakt - and there's no reflection from most lcd screens. The difference in power saving and lifetime extension is significant, anyway.
As for contrast - not correct. In the early 80's, Alan Sugar deployed yellow on dark blue to overcome the primitive technologies available at that time. He is reputed to have consulted on the issue. It certainly worked. He would have been running the PC industry worldwide now had it not been for dirty tricks by transatlantic bullies. Sound familiar?!
Apart from which, the guys on your link are utterly wrong. Try it! A black background is far less strain. This fact is both subjectively as well as intuitively evident!
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