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Lobster
Official Crustacean

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 10:38 Post_subject:
2.16 Alpha Bugs Sub_title: Be careful |
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We need testers on this one . . .
The first problem I encountered was with IRC
It was sluggish (this could be the decompression?) in a very noticeable way. Normally Gaim would connect in under 5 secs - this was taking 60 secs - thought it had crashed . . .
I have noticed other bugs and need to do a md5sum to ensure I have a correct burn - because I got no "Save button"
The last experimental release seemed more stable, so I am assuming that it is the new compression software?
I downloaded the OpenOffice module and the sfs installer came up (neat) but it was not added that I could find, on a reboot.
Sorry for not providing specifics but I wanted to warn people, this is an Alpha - don't expect it to 'sort of work' (I did I must admit)
I have gone back to 2.15 for now.
We do need the feedback guys - just be careful
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 13:32 Post_subject:
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I run 2.16 experiment 2 for 2 weeks now without problems.
The OOo 2.2 is nicely connected.
I just downloaded the alpha and will test it.
Thanks for the warning
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Henry
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 812 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 13:48 Post_subject:
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As I noted in the announcements topic, I have experienced no such problems. I am using an ordinary boot from CD, no usb, no multisssion or install, however.
Yes, let's test it cautiously, like any alpha - but no panic yet ;-)
BTW, there's no compression in this version, is there? I never used compression. If someone used a .2fs file from a 2.16 exp using compression, that might make a difference?
Henry
(edit: The email problem I mentioned seems to be a red herring - please disregard.)
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 17:51 Post_subject:
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One annoying thing is still there.
When the pup_save conversion is done, I lost again the dotpup menu entries of the previously installed dotpup programs.
Most annoying.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 18:15 Post_subject:
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Now I am on my desktop with a RT73 WiFi interface.
Through the network wizard, I can't configure the interface.
The driver is loaded, a device rausb0 is there, but when I scan and I select my access point, I stay in a scan loop and can't get out off there. In fact, when I coose any availble access point the scan loops. I can't close this window.
With RutilT I can make the connection.
Secondly, my sata HDD in IDE mode is still not recognized, but that doesnt surprise me.
So no joy to use the 320 GB HDD space.
My pup_save being on a CF card, I just got that pop-up window telling to wait as the pup-save is being updated. When done, this pop-up window went away.
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GuestToo
Puppy Master
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 21:03 Post_subject:
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Puppy 216 alpha seems to be noticeably quicker than 214, when programs first start
Puppy does mess with the desktop icons, which is annoying ... as a simple workaround, you can use your own pinboard file, i do
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GuestToo
Puppy Master
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 21:07 Post_subject:
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also, the kernel does not seem to attempt to use the entire ram as aggressively as it used to ... so unused stuff is not forced into the swap space as quickly
not a big difference, but the kernel's behaviour does seem to be a little different
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Henry
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 812 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 21:12 Post_subject:
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Puppy' icons were superimposed on mine, but quickly cleaned up, mostly removed, and suggested some nice alternatives. None of my icons were affected otherwise.
Henry
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rerwin

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 23:35 Post_subject:
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I could delete old partitions but could not create new ones because formatting fails. Formatting an existing partition also fails.
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rerwin

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 23:49 Post_subject:
Xorg fails on bootup after personal data saved in partition Sub_title: Need to rerun xorgwizard each bootup. |
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This is a frugal install followed by saving personal data to a partition instead of a pup_save file. All seemed well during reboot until xorg stopped at the command prompt to enter "xorgwizard". It happens every time.
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rerwin

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 23:56 Post_subject:
Extra SFS files not mounted in frugal + data partition Sub_title: Boot mgr allows their selection, but the sfs files not added to unionfs. |
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I saw this in 2.15, too, but want to add it to the bug log.
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9908 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 00:10 Post_subject:
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I burned 2.16a SeaMonkey fulldrivers to a DVD+RW, booted the DVD, configured for a while, then shut down saving to the DVD. When I tried to reboot, it hung at trying to mount unionfs on pup_new. So I tried to boot the DVD with puppy pfix=1, to ignore the (only) saved session, and it hung again at about the same place in the boot sequence but with a different error. The DVD boots ok with pfix=ram.
I burned the same iso to another DVD+RW (both were burned with burniso2cd) and it did the exact same thing.
The iso I downloaded might be corrupted, but I thought I'd report this to see if anyone else is having the same problem with 2.16a multisession.
I haven't noticed any other problem with 2.16a. The sound works, Gxine plays wmv and Youtube files without a hitch and with good sound volume, and my Airlink 101 Super G PCI wireless modem works after running the connection wizard.
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 07:16 Post_subject:
Re: 2.16 Alpha Bugs Sub_title: Be careful |
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| Lobster wrote: | | I have noticed other bugs and need to do a md5sum to ensure I have a correct burn - because I got no "Save button" |
You only get a Save button if boot from Flash drive (or multisession CD).
| Quote: | | The last experimental release seemed more stable, so I am assuming that it is the new compression software? |
There is no "new compression software". 2.16exp3 used squashfs-lzma and ext2-compression but that was only an experiment and has been dumped.
| Quote: | | I downloaded the OpenOffice module and the sfs installer came up (neat) but it was not added that I could find, on a reboot. |
There is a checkbox in the Boot Manager, did you untick it? -- if you don't, the default is to ignore your selection.
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 07:24 Post_subject:
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| Béèm wrote: | One annoying thing is still there.
When the pup_save conversion is done, I lost again the dotpup menu entries of the previously installed dotpup programs.
Most annoying. |
DotPups that modify the menu config file directly are no longer supported. They have not been supported since 2.14, and authors of DotPups were requested many times to update their DotPups to have '.desktop' file and not modify the menu. Any "DotPup creator" software that creates a DotPup that does modify the menu is out-of-date and should be either upgraded or deleted.
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 07:30 Post_subject:
Re: Gparted fails to format partition Sub_title: Always stops with "An error occurred while applying the operations." |
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| rerwin wrote: | | I could delete old partitions but could not create new ones because formatting fails. Formatting an existing partition also fails. |
Insufficient details. Are you using Gparted? What type of f.s. are you trying to create? Could you do the same thing in an earlier Puppy?
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