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2.15CE doesn't show menu in IceWM, does in JWM
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WhoDo


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2007, 02:12    Post subject:  

Sit Heel Speak wrote:
And, same question, to WhoDo and Béèm?

Your wish is my command, SHS.
Code:
Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "kbd"
   Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option      "XkbModel" "pc102"
   Option      "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option       "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
   Option       "Device" "/dev/mouse"
   #Option      "Emulate3Buttons"
   #Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
   Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

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Mstar

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2007, 10:03    Post subject:  

Sit Heel Speak,

Here are the entires:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel

As an experiment, I used the Wizard to install the USB mouse and then re-copied the sections.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Does not look like anything changed. As usual, the USB mouse had not been detected when I opened the wizard.

Again, thanks for your continuing interest in this issue. Your help is appreciated.
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Sit Heel Speak


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2007, 21:22    Post subject:  

@Béèm and @WhoDo:

It's really a bit beyond my experience level at present, but...

I notice, with regard to touchpads, there is a synaptics driver in

/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/input

and so, I wonder if either of you have, thereby, a third "InputDevice" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the identifier "Synaptics Mouse" as described at:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=7955

or else, if you don't have it, could one simply add such a section, e.g.

Code:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "TouchpadOff" "1"
EndSection


(the Option "TouchpadOff" "1" line is described at

http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/synaptics.5.html

)

and put

Code:
modprobe evdev


in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to activate the driver...as mentioned at

http://www.puppyos.net/forum/azbb.php?1166117515

(note: it looks like the standard xorgwizard which comes with 2.15CE does not contain the modified choosemousefunc() which is included in the modified xorgwizard, available at the above URL)

(but I don't think it should be necessary, if you simply modprobe the driver and then hand-edit xorg.conf as above)

Does this solve the problem?

***(EDITED: then again...you might need to add, to

Section "ServerLayout"

in xorg.conf, the line

Code:
InputDevice   "Mouse0"   "AlwaysCore"


...replacing Mouse0 with Mouse1 if that is the number your touchpad makes go crazy, on Zigzagcom's test described above...

)

HTH,
SHS
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2007, 22:57    Post subject:  

@MStar: this was reported by "bunnydowell" at

http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Microsoft_optical_mouse_problems_t29386.html

to work under OpenSuse 10.1 but I don't know whether it will work under icewm. In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, replace your present mouse InputDevice section with this (make a backup of xorg.conf first, of course):

Code:
Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse0" ## change to Mouse1 if doesn't work
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


and make sure in

Section "ServerLayout"

there is a line

Code:
InputDevice   "Mouse0"   "AlwaysCore"


or "Mouse1" if that is the number in the InputDevice section.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2007, 04:16    Post subject:    

Thank you Sit Heal Speak, you are a champion. Very Happy

I followed your 'dangerous' Wink suggestion, but had to add an extra input device in the serverlayout section, the synaptics mouse.
I don't know if extra parameters apply there.
Only after adding this I have no more Touchpad active, but the trackpoint is still active.
BTW, I noticed that /dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux

Here is my conf now:
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "X.org Configured"
   Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
   #InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice    "Mouse0" "AlwaysCore"
   InputDevice      "Synaptics Mouse"
   InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "kbd"
   Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option      "XkbModel" "pc102"
   Option      "XkbLayout" "be" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "TouchpadOff" "1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option       "Protocol" "auto" #mouse0protocol
   Option       "Device" "/dev/mouse"
   #Option      "Emulate3Buttons"
   #Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
   Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2007, 16:10    Post subject:  

Sit Heel Speak,

It had no effect. Tried it both ways, mouse0 and mouse1, didn't matter.

Thanks for the effort.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2007, 17:51    Post subject:  

@mstar
Can you post your "ServerLayout" section?
In fact can you post in the same way as I did, so including the "InputDevice" section as well?
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2007, 18:27    Post subject:  

Mstar wrote:
It had no effect. Tried it both ways, mouse0 and mouse1, didn't matter.

Yes, please post the whole stretch as Béèm requests. It goes between the markers left-square-bracket code right-square-bracket and the same with /code in between, no spaces. I see that Dougal has now posted an update to puppyserialdetect, just within the last few hours. Perhaps this holds a key clue.

What is the result of the Zigzagcom test, referenced above?

Have you tried plugging-in the mouse-receiver not through a USB port, but rather into a PS/2 port using a USB-to-PS/2 adapter (little plastic thing about an inch-and-a-quarter long, sold locally in the color green for $1.50)?
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 18:49    Post subject:  

OK, here is the entire server section

# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

Option "RandR" "on"

EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse1" ## change to Mouse1 if doesn't work
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 380 300 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "VSC"
ModelName "VA912-3SERIES"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-82
VertRefresh 50-81
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
# Available Driver options are:-
# Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
# <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
# [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "CacheLines" # <i>
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCSurfaces" # <i>
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "i810" #card0driver
VendorName "Intel Corporation"
BoardName "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=Intel_r_865G_Graphics_ChipVSC4e1c


I don't have a USB to PS2 adapter with my mouse. Will pick one up next time I'm out and report the results. Might be a few days, though.

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 19:07    Post subject:  

Do you really have this file on your disk?
Code:
 Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"

Strange as I have
Code:
/dev/mouse
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 19:21    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
Do you really have this file on your disk?
Code:
 Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"

Strange as I have
Code:
/dev/mouse

/dev/input/mice exists on my Puppy 2.15CE, when I have both a ps2 and a cordless usb mouse plugged in.

@MStar: if you change the number in

Identifier "Mouse1" ## change to Mouse1 if doesn't work

then you must change the number to match it, in the corresponding line in the "ServerLayout" section, in other words change

InputDevice "Mouse0" "AlwaysCore"

to read

InputDevice "Mouse1" "AlwaysCore"

Sorry for not making that clear.
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2007, 20:31    Post subject:  

@Sit Heal Speak,
IC for the mice. Smile
Logic then.
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