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Mstar · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 74

Running 2.15CE with Icewm.

Clicking on "Menu" opens a small window in the upper left corner of my display. It does not contain the menu.

The only time the actual menu displays is if there is already a window open on the desktop.

Same for a right click on the desktop.

Same behavior in both a live CD and full HD install.

Menu behaves "normally" when I switch to JWM.

Is this normal Icewm behavior? This is the first time I've used it, so I don't have anything to compare.

Thanks

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Mstar · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 74

Sit Heel Speak,

No I didn't. But now that I know this isn't how it's supposed to work I will.

It's odd, because both Final and Final(2) do the same thing on my machine.

Thanks for the response.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Here are the md5 sums on my 2.15CE (Final) (patched) as well as its unpacked components and the accompanying sfs files. These were all downloaded from Previously Known as Guest's server, before it went over its bandwidth allocation limit. The unpacked components are on my USB stick and so the linld.cfg and of course pup_save.2fs will be different from yours:

F:\>md5sum puppy-~1.iso
8e3ea16dda19d2e21ffe1f7f3acbb975 *puppy-215CE-Final.iso

Unpacked components and accompanying sfs files :

D:\>md5sum *.*
6a7ef1e62191f6f458ddaacdd881772d *boot.cat
3c8c791f51c5e94868f006f10fa0782c *boot.msg
74f698055f921229ab390a085e27a218 *INITRD.GZ
c19705b8f39cf68a0f7d1d1db1e82456 *isolinux.bin
2e2936dee94a837c6aaa5a55cb2deb16 *isolinux.cfg
282f5914c086b4ed7e61dc43d24f0fd9 *pup_215.sfs
952484a8a742d57595d7ae8b8118b7f1 *VMLINUZ
dd0815c9272204fafe92fe8bc8fc9555 *zdrv_215.sfs
051852255e8ad67c35d3c59dd6bf7d75 *devx_215.sfs
683815c46325e541213f9292d06830a0 *fltkc++_215.sfs
54adc8fc3e90cc68f5d77d2ed5913602 *pgs_215.sfs
7aae06012df09176d73da75fb2f8d28f *web_215.sfs
1e91689bd64947cf83e2a18c98aae7a6 *PUPXUSB
7215ee9c7d9dc229d2921a40e899ec5f *USBFLASH
0c32d19dc116488f02447d4c37592217 *linld.cfg
dfd83d7cf0a21fb89250263fe0553107 *pup_save.2fs

HTH,
SHS

Mstar · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 74

Sit Heel Speak,

The checksums match for both of the iso's I downloaded.

I don't know how to get the checksums for the files inside the iso, but I doubt that both downloads have the exact same internal error. Does not seem likely. Would the iso checksum be OK if one of the internal files was corrupted?

So, I wonder if there is some other explanation for this behavior.

I will check the internal files if someone can point me to the appropriate instructions.

Thanks

Mstar · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 74

I just found something else.

The machine has both a USB wireless mouse and a wired PS2 mouse attached. The USB mouse is the one that causes the odd menu behavior, the wired mouse works normally. This is true even after I set-up the wireless mouse while 2.15Ce is running (it worked, but was not checked in the Wizard when I opened it)

So, I hesitate to call this a bug, because there probably aren't many machines with both kinds of mice in simultaneous use. But, it's definitely a quirk, most likely related to USB handling.

Other Puppy versions have not done this on the same machine, but they didn't use Icewm either.

Anyway, the source of the behavior is at least identified.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

As for the mouse, have you tried putting the line

modprobe usbhid

at the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local? May solve the usb mouse trouble.

If you're still having trouble with the menu...

Mstar · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 74

Sit Heel Speak,

Thanks for the guidance. The checksums on the CD all match your numbers, so I don't think the burn was corrupted.

I tried the "modprobe usbhid" from rxvt, but it had no effect. The USB mouse behaves the same way after issuing the command. So, I did not put it in rc.local.

Also, the wizard did not show the USB mouse installed on this boot, even though I had used the wizard to install it last time I ran. So, it appears there is something odd going on.

The wired mouse continues to work properly.

Anyway, since I now have a workaround the problem is academic, but still annoying.

Thanks for your help.

Lobster · Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2007, 12:49 Post subject:

Béèm · Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2007, 12:59 Post subject:

@Mstar,
Just out of curiosity, why would you like to have two mice on your system?

Can you imaging a car with two steering wheels, working independantly from each other, what effect it would have?

octobclrnts · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 36

Ever heard of a fire engine? They have two steering wheels. It helps to get tighter turns.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

@Béèm: Perhaps his usb mouse is better than his ps/2 mouse, but he has only a single usb port and desires the ability to use the usb port for something else from time to time. A similar situation holds, on my older Thinkpad laptop.

Béèm · Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2007, 14:46 Post subject:

Béèm · Posted: Sat 21 Apr 2007, 14:49 Post subject:

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind