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john biles


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2007, 20:24    Post subject:  

Hello setecio,
Give it a try and maybe create some swap on your Hard Drive say 128Mb's
I could only get Puppy 2.03 running on a Pentium 1 PC with 32mb's of ram when I created some swap. (sometimes creating an ext2 partition over a ext3 partition has worked for me) I had to wait 20 minutes for Puppy to boot up on the old PC with 32mb's of ram Live before I could use Gpart to setup the required partitions. It took a bit of time to get it to work, so keep experimenting, good luck.


Joshfan, I'd check the checksum to see if you have downloaded TEENpup without errors first. Also remember TEENpup 1.0.0 is based on Puppy 2.10

Have you tried Puppy 2.10 or 2.14
One thing I have learnt about Linux after trying over 50 different distro's is that one distro will work nicely on one PC and then not work well or at all on another PC. I've had great success with Mepis 3.4-3 where others on this forum could get it to boot at all.

With TEENpup all that has been added is more Apps and changes to the appearance of Icons, mime files etc.
I have not removed anything.

I hope you get it working. TEENpup 2.0.0 will be coming in a few weeks time and is based on Puppy 2.14 so hopefully you will have more luck then.

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metre9dmt


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2007, 20:36    Post subject: TeenPup bug (i think?)  

Tried to use TeenPup at the office wherein I have Pentium 4, nvidia motherboard and video built in, ps/2 mouse and keyboard and LCD monitor. I was able to see the main screen but the mouse is nowhere to be found. Any suggestions to go around this problem?

I will test it later at home and report details later.

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metre9dmt


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2007, 02:02    Post subject: TeenPup bug (i think?) Rejoinder  

Used an officemate's computer with a regular CRT monitor and almost the same specs, TeenPup works! The mouse works perfectly.

Does TeenPup have a bug on LCD monitors?

Dominic M. Tolentino
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john biles


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2007, 02:14    Post subject:  

Hello metre9dmt,
I test TEENpup where I work and they have an LCD screen, no problems.
Some times I have to re-run the xorgwizard and in there you will find the mouse wizard, which may allow you to get around the problem. Also at work I can only use xvesa as TEENpup 1.0.0 won't work correctly using xorg.
As I am working on TEENpup 2.0.0 at the moment, testing so far has both xvesa and xorg working fine on the PC at work.

asawa ko pilipina so good to hear someone from the Philippines is trying out TEENpup.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2007, 08:49    Post subject: Philippines  

Ah, I also discovered metre9dmt is just a neighbor! And you are, too, John. This is too good to be totoo (real), eh?
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metre9dmt


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2007, 20:55    Post subject: LCD problem & Neighbors  

Tried to use several mouse (logitech, A4Tech and IBM) to eliminate problem. The problem still persist, I still cannot see the mouse at TeenPup main screen. Tried to play around with xorgwizard but I have only the courage to change the vertical screen refresh rate. There must be a glitch somewhere. The LCD monitor is a LG FLatron L1730S and with Nvidia video built in the motherboard (Correction with the CPU: it was an Athlon 64). I still have to read the more about the xorgwizard before tinkering with it. Anyway, it would have been nice to show off TeenPup to my officemates who are extensive CAD users. There is always a next time...

By the way, Raffy is the first Filipino I know who is actively involve with Puppy Linux. I just visited him at his workplace last April 10 and nice enough to have a short chat. He actually inspired me to use Puppy Linux extensively and spread the gospel.

Last year, I went to this Open Source Conference thinking of learning more about Linux. I was frustrated by most attendees since they speak too much hardcore computerese, showing off their high-end laptops/phones and all they can think off are those bigger Linux distribution such as Novell Suse, Red Hat and Ubuntu. I was further displease since there were not even an exchange of such Linux distributions. How can I know how good they are? Wasn't this the Open Source Conference?

That was time I search around the Internet and found Puppy Linux. I was pleased to know it was a live distribution so it was easy to play around using my Windows-based computer. I was also glad that Barry Kauler and Raffy were there and not some hardcore computer geeks for us, ordinary mortals (re: Windows slaves ;-)), that can use Puppy Linux and TeenPup (of course) in our daily lives and slowly get out of the Matrix-like world of Windows. Thank you for your efforts! That includes you and other makers of Puppy Linux derivatives.

Regards.

Dominic M. Tolentino 8-)
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metre9dmt


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 04:48    Post subject: Just reading 2.0 Notes...Nice  

Just read the recent changes for version 2.0. Nice! I had my pamangkins (nephews and nieces) used TeenPup 1.0 in their computers after taught them how to use it. They are now using it more often rather than Windows 98 that came with their computers. They can even use the USB connectors (through a PCI card) which can't be done with Windows 98.

Through them I hope they can spread the beauty and power of Puppy Linux. Regards.

metre9dmt 8-)
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 06:34    Post subject:  

Hello metre9dmt,
I glad you like it salamat!

Here's a screenshot of TEENpup 2.0.0 Mini Edition (ISO aprox 140MB's in size)
Please be aware that this screenshot (XFce Desktop) is only to give an idea of what to expect, Icons etc may chance in the final version.


There will also be a bigger version of TEENpup 2.0.0

I've made the ISO 140mb's in size so that PC's with 128Mb's of Ram will run from the CD like other Live Distro's and PC's with 256Mb's of Ram or more will run in Ram mode while still having 100MB's Plus of spare Ram to run all Apps.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 06:58    Post subject: Comments on Screenshots of TeenPup 2.0  

As my 8-year-old son would say, it rocks! I humbly suggest that the previous menu system should be available as an alternative. This is to minimize retraining and provides more familiarity, especially to previous TeenPup users.

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metre9dmt 8-)
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 07:38    Post subject:  

Hello metre9dmt,
While XFce is available as an option, JWM is still the default desktop.
Also the version of XFce included in TEENpup 2.0.0 Mini Edition doesn't include the option to have desktop icons, sorry and also it only works correctly with Xorg again sorry to those using Xvesa.

Here's a Screenshot of the JWM Desktop, again this may not be the final version.
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metre9dmt


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 20:23    Post subject: TeenPup Apps  

Since there would be two editions, Mini and Maxi, I hope in the Maxi edition the following apps are still included: JRE, QCad and VYM. Using QCad and VYM regularly. JRE would be useful since I'm testing several Java programs.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2007, 21:37    Post subject:  

Hello metre9dmt,
As the screenshots are only to give current TEENpup user's an idea of what to expect in the next TEENpup, final Apps included in TEENpup mini isn't finalized.
I can tell you that JRE won't be included in the mini edition as it is a 25MB Dotpup or the online Printer Wizard as it's a 18MB Dotpup. Both will be in the full edition of TEENpup. Just remember you can copy the Dotpups from TEENpup 1.0.0 for JRE and the Printer Wizard and install them in TEENpup 2.0.0 mini.

I'm leaning toward TEENpup 2.0.0 being a mainly install to Hard Drive edition of TEENpup. It will be a larger ISO than TEENpup 1.0.0 so will require a bit more RAM or Swap to run on older PC's Live.

Now can I ask you a question about VYM, does you son or yourself use it alot.
If so has it worked correctly for you and your son, what are your thoughts about it.

TEENpup 2.0.0 mini edition will be released first, early May.

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lvds


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2007, 02:10    Post subject:  

Hi John,

i see you have K3B inside, how did you get it to run ? i thought it needs KDE environment, isn't it ? what libraries are needed to have it to run within JWM or XFCE but not KDE ?

It looks great, keep up the good work ! Smile

Best regards,
Laurent (working hard on a distro for gamers)

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2007, 05:29    Post subject:  

Hello lvds,
Some one created a version of Puppy based on 2.10 that Included K3B
I just went though that version and copied all the required files over into TEENpup 2.0.0 which did add aprox 30Mb's to the ISO.
I just believe TEENpup should have a CD Burner as good as Nero.
I'll be doing some more experimenting to see what other K Apps I can get running in TEENpup.

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Gekko


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2007, 05:44    Post subject:  

This means TEENpup includes QT?! Yay! I won't have to look for it, phew.
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