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jrb


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2020, 20:43    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
I've produced several Bionic64's with woof-CE and keep running into some bugs.

the original "console" desktop icon link opens List dependencies

when adding any huge kernel to /woof_out_XXXX/huge-kernel
the build process is failing to use that kernel or give it as a choice.
Matter of fact what did happen to choosing the kernel during the build process?
Wasn't there a selection inquiry during the run?
Now all I see is the kernel 4,19.23 getting used no matter what.
I must be doing something wrong suddenly...does anyone have a solution?
Take a look at _00build_2.conf. This appears to lock the kernel setting to KERNEL_TARBALL_URL=http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/huge-4.19.23-bionicpup64.tar.bz2.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2020, 22:57    Post subject:  

Hello jrb

Thanks! that was it, I commented the line and had the desired huge kernel in the correct directory and the build successfully included the kernel and completed an ISO.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Feb 2020, 20:52    Post subject:  

norgo wrote:
currently /etc/xorg-intel-device-id contains following intel device id's (known for hanging freezing problems with sna)
0412, 2562, 27a2
feel free and add intel device id's of affected GPU's for test


@norgo,
Thanks for those device ids, I have added them to my laptop id, 5a85.

WoofQ video handling has diverged considerably from woof-CE, and my code to handle those special GPUs is different:

https://bkhome.org/news/202002/hack-for-special-intel-gpus.html

The latest EasyOS, version 2.2.9, handles this special case gpu OK on my laptop.

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Fri 06 Mar 2020, 07:49    Post subject:  

Quote from scsijon : (thanks)

“A squeal from the monitor use to be the sign that the system is trying to run the frequency too high when trying to test for screen matrixes, in bad cases it caused the capacitor or transformer itself to burn out. It shouldn't happen in anything new and anything with a digital input (that can send back the signal ranges when starting up). I've only seen it with one new system where the video system was overdriven and burnt out the monitors digital input stage, not suppose to be able to happen, but....”

Tested with another monitor, I think it must be a couple of caps gone south on the internal psu.
No streaks or squealing/ boot screen problems now, regardless of csm module off or on.
So I need to freshly try out the puppies without thinking that uefi /legacy mode or pulse audio server is causing mayhem with the graphics.
Did say I didn’t want to create any red herrings regarding graphics on the later puppies!
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2020, 20:37    Post subject:  

I suggest to add rox-filer from jun7's github here:
https://github.com/jun7/rox-filer
in woof-ce.
It now support many improvement.
it can search by typing part of name diretcly,
it can resize by name when we resize window in list view
it has bar per file when we copy multiple files.
etc.

I try to compile it, but I have some problems, that are:
1. In the icon view, the background is not white as in the list view
2. The drive icon still not correct, not seems as usual puppy

So, maybe anyone expert here can add and fix that in the woof-ce.
Thank you.

I also post on the rox-filer thread here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1055287#1055287
but still not any comment or suggestion from other.. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2020, 13:41    Post subject:  

I tried building the latest Ubuntu release and it wouldn't build because we have no files in our repo, To my knowledge woof-ce has not been update since since April 2018, we don't have Eoan Ermine, Focal Fossa capabilities, It would be nice if the woof -CE would be changed or altered so that we wouldn't need a matching puppy repo to build a current version, If the woof-ce developers aren't going to stay current with the latest releases, we should have an option to use the previous repo so that we could actually have something new that isn't 2yrs old. Or have a woof-ce that doesn't depend on the puppy repo at all. We could always add/compile the puppy package need, maybe just have a 32 bit and 64 bit puppy repo for scripts needed that don't need compiling, and have a list of package that could be compiled later and added manually then we wouldn't need to wait for the woof-ce management to make specific matching name folders of the release to build future version, just a 32/64 bit folders with scrips and a .txt file stating what should be compiled and added after you build a current version. I'm just saying puppy has been stalled for 2yrs now and something needs to change.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2020, 14:38    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
I tried building the latest Ubuntu release and it wouldn't build because we have no files in our repo, ......I'm just saying puppy has been stalled for 2yrs now and something needs to change.

Have you looked at how UPupEF (UPup Eoan-Focal) and FossaPup64 are built? All the config info is in their /var/packages....

There is a FossaPup64 repo:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-fossa64/

It is not possible to build a 32-bit 100% Focal-Fossa pup as Ubuntu are no longer supplying all needed 32-bit components.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2020, 15:02    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
I tried building the latest Ubuntu release and it wouldn't build because we have no files in our repo, ......I'm just saying puppy has been stalled for 2yrs now and something needs to change.

Have you looked at how UPupEF (UPup Eoan-Focal) and FossaPup64 are built? All the config info is in their /var/packages....

There is a FossaPup64 repo:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-fossa64/

It is not possible to build a 32-bit 100% Focal-Fossa pup as Ubuntu are no longer supplying all needed 32-bit components.

It was about 3 weeks ago when I tried building it, Never seen these pups yet, better have a look Smile, So if I download the latest woof-ce will it now allow me to build a Eoan-Focal or Fossa 64bit version of puppy, Or am I still stuck using a version of Bionic I made 2yrs ago. I just want to build and upgrade my OS the way I like it. I don't normally use someone else work. Haven't in years.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2020, 15:09    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
So if I download the latest woof-ce will it now allow me to build a Eoan-Focal or Fossa 64bit version of puppy

No - FossaPup64 is still at Beta stage....
UPupEF will probably never go into Woof-CE being a hybrid 32-bit Eoan-Focal build....
Systems don't have to be "in Woof-CE" to be built with the latest Woof-CE components....in fact most aren't.....

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2020, 19:55    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
So if I download the latest woof-ce will it now allow me to build a Eoan-Focal or Fossa 64bit version of puppy

No - FossaPup64 is still at Beta stage....
UPupEF will probably never go into Woof-CE being a hybrid 32-bit Eoan-Focal build....
Systems don't have to be "in Woof-CE" to be built with the latest Woof-CE components....in fact most aren't.....

When I tried woof-ce and tried to build focal it wouldn't work because puppy doesn't have a focal directory. I compiled the kernels etc. That's why I asked if we could just have a version where it doesn't search for a specific release in our repo. And just let us add the missing packages that it would get in the repo, That way after it builds I could simple compile the packages myself and add them. That way we could make any version we wanted even a beta, alpha etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2020, 08:51    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
That's why I asked if we could just have a version where it doesn't search for a specific release in our repo. And just let us add the missing packages that it would get in the repo,

Just remove the repos you don't want from DISTRO_PET_REPOS and add in your personal repo for the missing components that you will supply.....

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2020, 08:42    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
peebee wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
I tried building the latest Ubuntu release and it wouldn't build because we have no files in our repo, ......I'm just saying puppy has been stalled for 2yrs now and something needs to change.

Have you looked at how UPupEF (UPup Eoan-Focal) and FossaPup64 are built? All the config info is in their /var/packages....

There is a FossaPup64 repo:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-fossa64/

It is not possible to build a 32-bit 100% Focal-Fossa pup as Ubuntu are no longer supplying all needed 32-bit components.

It was about 3 weeks ago when I tried building it, Never seen these pups yet, better have a look Smile, So if I download the latest woof-ce will it now allow me to build a Eoan-Focal or Fossa 64bit version of puppy, Or am I still stuck using a version of Bionic I made 2yrs ago. I just want to build and upgrade my OS the way I like it. I don't normally use someone else work. Haven't in years.
hi ttuuxxx,

attached is my current build for a minimal fossapup which you could use as a starting point. it has a terminal and dillo and leafpad but not much else. it could be stripped further or added to. also in the archive is full-DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-ubuntu-focal which builds the one i am currently working on.

just put the focal64 folder in woof /woof-distro/x86_64/ubuntu/

edit: something to be aware of in the DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-ubuntu-focal file, at the end of it are zz_fossafix64sml zz_fdrv & zz_adrv.
zz_fossafix are my personal customisation and fixes.
zz_fdrv is is for having a separate firmware.sfs &
zz_adrv is for a separate .sfs with all the apps from the full build.
these may also need turning off in _00build.conf if you don't wish to use them
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2020, 08:33    Post subject:  

Suppose a very interested and motivated newbie came in and asked a question like this: "How to start to get familiar with WoofCE with the intent to eventually create a Puppy of some kind?" Mr. Green

What would the master's reply be? Smile

Serious question. Just reading this and getting itchy fingers.

Should I just download and install it and see what's what?

Regards, BP.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2020, 16:26    Post subject:  

bullpup wrote:
Suppose a very interested and motivated newbie came in and asked a question like this: "How to start to get familiar with WoofCE with the intent to eventually create a Puppy of some kind?" Mr. Green

What would the master's reply be? Smile

Serious question. Just reading this and getting itchy fingers.

Should I just download and install it and see what's what?

Regards, BP.


Hi bullpup,

This is some very good info from puppy builder 666philb that works to build a puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1022476#1022476

Good luck & Have Fun!
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2020, 02:38    Post subject:  

Thanks for that Smile

I'll get to it

EDIT I assume woof-CE is to be used inside Puppy, right?

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