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666philb · #1161 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:10

on slow computers i use i install the 'open with' addon in palemoon and then open the video in mpv.

this addon (an archive list of old addons) needs to be installed first https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases

666philb · #1162 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:14

ProgRob wrote:I have just started using BionicPup. Running well. A couple of issues, one of which is with Compton.

I am using it to set the opacity of non-active windows to be semi-transparent. However, all I get is a slight change of colour in their background until I hit 50% when the window goes really transparent.

Any reason why?

hi ProgRob,

i've been trying to figure this out for a while with no luck

i think it may be to do with JWM

linuxcbon · #1163 Post by **linuxcbon** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:28

666philb wrote:hi ProgRob,

i've been trying to figure this out for a while with no luck
i think it may be to do with JWM

Hi Phil, there is a problem with compton, I get thousands lines of error messages in xerrs.log with my radeon :

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vsync_drm_wait(): VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this drmver?

See this bug : https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/LARBS/issues/23
I guess compton should be disabled by default.

666philb · #1164 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:29

ally wrote:having trouble setting sound via hdmi on an asus gl10cs tower

it has on-board intel HDA ALC887_VD and nvidia NVIDIA Corporation Device 10f9 (rev a1)

sound card wizard currently selected for the intel analogue but have also tried the nvidia cards shown, unmuted but am still unable to output sound via hdmi to the monitor

have the same issue with fatdog64-810

sound perfectly fine through the hdd installed win10

sound does not play with or without save files, from usb or disc

have had a good google about and tried a number of solutions without success

any assistance appreciated

hi ally,

this is an old fix but worth a go.
try adding

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options snd-hda-intel model=generic

the the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot

666philb · #1165 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:32

linuxcbon wrote:
666philb wrote:hi ProgRob,

i've been trying to figure this out for a while with no luck
i think it may be to do with JWM
Hi Phil, there is a problem with compton, I get thousands lines of error messages in xerrs.log with my radeon :
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vsync_drm_wait(): VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this drmver?
See this bug : https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/LARBS/issues/23
I guess compton should be disabled by default.

start compton with

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compton --config ~/.config/compton.conf -b --logpath /tmp/compton.log

to get rid of those messages. note a default bionicpup64 does this already, but i guess that gets lost when changes are made

linuxcbon · #1166 Post by **linuxcbon** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:59

666philb wrote:on slow computers i use i install the 'open with' addon in palemoon and then open the video in mpv.
this addon (an archive list of old addons) needs to be installed first https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases

Does it work for youtube videos ?
Why not chromium as default, cause it's really fast ?

666philb · #1167 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:27

linuxcbon wrote:
666philb wrote:on slow computers i use i install the 'open with' addon in palemoon and then open the video in mpv.
this addon (an archive list of old addons) needs to be installed first https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases
Does it work for youtube videos ?
Why not chromium as default, cause it's really fast ?

yes it does work for youtube videos and various other sites.

the only reason chromium is fast is because it's an older version, the last version to have hardware acceleration. if you try to update any of the chrome based browsers in quickpet (vivaldi,opera,chrome etc) you'll be bitterly disappointed. On a 16 core cpu with a nvidia 1050ti card 360p videos have screen tearing

palemoon is actually very good at streaming 4k 60fps youtube videos (silky smooth), but i guess must use more cpu than chromium going by your reports.

linuxcbon · #1168 Post by **linuxcbon** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:36

666philb wrote:the only reason chromium is fast is because it's an older version, the last version to have hardware acceleration. if you try to update any of the chrome based browsers in quickpet (vivaldi,opera,chrome etc) you'll be bitterly disappointed. On a 16 core cpu with a nvidia 1050ti card 360p videos have screen tearing

Weird, because I updated chromium to the latest version and it's still very fast and no screen tearing.

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Version 73.0.3683.86 (Official Build) Built on Ubuntu , running on Puppy 8 (64-bit)

666philb wrote:palemoon is actually very good at streaming 4k 60fps youtube videos (silky smooth), but i guess must use more cpu than chromium going by your reports.

Palemoon is extremely slow on old cpus, it uses at least 90% of the cpu. It's much slower than firefox, which is already slow.

666philb · #1169 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:39

chromium is at version 79 now. 73 is the last good chromium.

666philb · #1170 Post by **666philb** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:43

see this thread http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... b37851a36a

OscarTalks · #1171 Post by **OscarTalks** » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 23:20

BionicPup64 has MPV media player which is quite good but of course the user controls are rather rudimentary.

I compiled GNOME-MPV from source. Version 0.16
It is GTK+3 only and support for this in Puppy is not perfect.
I notice that there is a "Pause" icon which is missing (once you start to play something)
Otherwise the GUI looks quite nice and offers better user controls.
You can drag and drop media files or right-click > Open With > GNOME-MPV
In case anyone wants to TEST I have uploaded to:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Installed size is only around 450k

thinkpadfreak · #1172 Post by **thinkpadfreak** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 00:59

linuxcbon wrote:

Palemoon uses 90% of cpu for me when watching youtube videos. Chromium only 5%.

ThinkPad X121e
CPU : AMD C-50 processor (dual core) at 1.0GHz
Video : AMD Radeon HD6250
RAM : 4GB

A result of XenialPup 32bit playing the same YouTube video:
Both Pale Moon 28 and Chromium 80 consume about 50% of CPU, except that Pale Moon consumes about 90% at the beginning of the playback.

As for Pale Moon, I switch "gfx.xrender.enabled" to "false." This reduces a considerable amount of CPU consumption.

Chromium 80 (ubuntu official build) is hardware-accelerated.
Chromium 79, which is not hardware-accelerated, is worse than Pale Moon.

Pale Moon seems to be a good choice as a default browser with about half the size of Chromium.

bigpup · #1173 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 01:56

Pale Moon high CPU usage.
There is a fix for Linux they are working on.
Testing it for now.

You can try to make the changes.

about:config in address slot, will bring up config window.
Make changes.

Try this one first.
layers.acceleration.force-enabled

This one may or may not help or be needed.
First try without changing this.
media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled

Shutdown and restart Pale Moon, so changes are being used.

about:support in address slot, will bring up support page, where you can see what changed.

Helped my Pale Moon v28.8.2.1

Also, Pale Moon v28.8.2.1 fixes You tube.

YouTube deprecating their old web UI. This change will enable the new YouTube UI by default.

bigpup · #1174 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 22:47

No way Google is the big Dog in web site feature control.

From You Tube support.
What browsers are supported.

YouTube no longer supports Internet Explorer. To continue using YouTube, update your browser to Chrome.

Wonder why they would recommend Chrome!

YouTube is an American video-sharing platform headquartered in San Bruno, California. Three former PayPal employees—Chad Hurley, Steve Chen, and Jawed Karim—created the service in February 2005. Google bought the site in November 2006 for US$1.65 billion; YouTube now operates as one of Google's subsidiaries.

artsown · #1175 Post by **artsown** » Mon 17 Feb 2020, 11:45

No way Google is the big Dog in web site feature control. Rolling Eyes
From You Tube support.
What browsers are supported.
Quote:
YouTube no longer supports Internet Explorer. To continue using YouTube, update your browser to Chrome.

Wonder why they would recommend Chrome! Idea

Quote:
YouTube is an American video-sharing platform headquartered in San Bruno, California. Three former PayPal employees—Chad Hurley, Steve Chen, and Jawed Karim—created the service in February 2005. Google bought the site in November 2006 for US$1.65 billion; YouTube now operates as one of Google's subsidiaries.

When I was testing various browsers, I encountered a warning message
in youtube using basilisk.

We’ll stop supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser.

The user agent basilisk uses for youtube is

general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 Basilisk/52.9.2020.01.12

I suppose the goal is to eventually allow only "chromium and derivatives"
browsers.

Art

ProgRob · #1176 Post by **ProgRob** » Mon 17 Feb 2020, 16:45

hi ProgRob,

i've been trying to figure this out for a while with no luck
i think it may be to do with JWM

Thanks for the response, Phil. It might help you to know that

a) I am running OpenBox rather than JWM
b) On the same machine I also have Xenial and Compton works perfectly in that

Let me know if there are any tests I can run to help diagnose.

Regards,
Rob

bigpup · #1177 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 18 Feb 2020, 00:50

YouTube
We’ll stop supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser.

I was getting that from YouTube with Pale Moon.
After updating Pale Moon to v28.8.2.1 that warning stopped showing up.
That update fixed Pale Moon.

ally · #1178 Post by **ally** » Tue 18 Feb 2020, 21:17

hi ally,

this is an old fix but worth a go.
try adding
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options snd-hda-intel model=generic
the the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot

thanks phil

unfortunately this did not work

ps - managed to get sound working with http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... x86_64.pet driver

ally · #1179 Post by **ally** » Tue 18 Feb 2020, 22:04

just an aside, this machine has been really troublesome and has not wanted to boot a fair collection of mainstream linux distros including a newly released mx 19.1 designed for newer 'difficult' hardware so kudos the only thing we couldn't get working was the sound

artsown · #1180 Post by **artsown** » Thu 20 Feb 2020, 12:14

On my faster computers, the speaker icon for sound volume control
sometimes or always does not appear at startup. Placing the following
script in /root/startup has fixed the problem for me.

sleep 15
retrovol -hide

Remove /root/Startup/autostart/retrovol.desktop

I add this script on xenialpup64 as well.

Create the script in geany and make it executeable (permissions).

The 15 second delay was chosen arbitrarily. It can probably be much
less and still be reliable.

Art

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