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Bionicpup64 8.0
Frugal install
Save folder

Bionicpup updates installs Frugalpup v11 and only puts stickpup in the menu.
666philb only wanted to use Stickpup in the menu, but the complete Frugalpup is there, when frugalpup is run from terminal.

The Frugalpup _18sb.sfs loads. but no menu entry is made.
Still have to run from terminal.
does not seem to show up as 18sb when you run it.
It still shows as v11.
So, I assume it is still v11 running.

I turned the FrugalPup_18sb.sfs into a pet package.
Installed the pet.
Now have FrugalPup in menu.
It runs FrugalPup 18sb

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@bigpup,
I am unable to reproduce the error you saw, even using Xenialpup64 and a stick with fat32 and ext3 partitions.

However I did find a bug:
The "Puppy" facility fails to write Puppy files to the root of a partiition, i.e. if there is no "psubdir" specified, even though it says it does.
The fix will be part of the next version.

gyro

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I got around the V11 problem in Bionicpup64 8.0 by installing FrugalPup 18sb as a pet package not loaded as a sfs.
That overwrites, what is in the save, to the newer version.

[gyro]

[gyro]

FrugalPup 18t, DiskPup 18t, StickPup 18t and f2StickPup 18t - Puppy frugal installer.

Download extra sfs 'frugalpup_18t.sfs' from http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rdyc5lgzpeij1/frugalpup (2.9 MiB).

This is a test release.

It includes fixes for both bugs mentioned above.
It does not include any MOK doco.

[gyro]

Known issue:

The "BootCD" facility in "FrugalPup" does not produce a bootable ".iso" file.
It needs to be re-worked since the change to booting grub4dos and then chaining to grub2.

gyro

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FrugalPup 19, DiskPup 19, StickPup 19 and f2StickPup 19 - Puppy frugal installer.

Download extra sfs 'frugalpup_19.sfs' from http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rdyc5lgzpeij1/frugalpup (2.9 MiB).

This is a feature release.

1. Support for "Secure Boot"
Thanks to forum member "jamesbond", support is included for booting Puppy while "Secure Boot" is enabled.
Although this does require the "enrolling" of a MOK (Machine Owner Key), with MOK manager.
The Puppy MOK is contained in the file "/puppy.cer" in the fat32 install partition.
Documentation of the "enroll" process is included in FrugalPup's "Help" facility.

2. Non-uefi boots now use grub4dos to chainload Grub2, rather than directly booting Grub2.
Installing the mbr for grub4dos is a lot simpler than installing the mbr for Grub2.

3. The FrugalPup "BootCD" facility has been re-worked to cleanly ignore installing grub4dos.
Even though it is a non-uefi boot, it still boots Grub2 directly.

gyro

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Tried using f2StickPup 19
It seems to have done everything OK.
Made a bootable install of Bionicpup64 8.0 to a USB flash drive.
sda1 small 100mb partition with boot files on it.
sda2 f2fs partition with Bionicpup64 8.0 frugal install.

Boots OK with secure boot enabled.
Did not have to do any MOK manager stuff, but I had already done that with another install.
So, probably is already setup in computer, to just look for the Puppy MOK.

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In the FrugalPup help. (index.html)

I suggest you make this change to the information on;

<b>DiskPup</b><br />
Does no partitioning or formating; The drive will need to already be partitioned and formatted. <br />
Best to have minimum of two partitions. First partition; a 100mb size, formatted fat32 (boot partition).<br />
One or more other partition(s), any format (ext 3 or 4 recommended), and minimum several GB in size (install location).<br />
Installs a single Puppy linux in a specified directory, and the boot loader (Grub2) in a specified fat32 partition.<br />
The Puppy linux directory can be on the same partition as the boot loader (if there is enough free space), or on a different partition.</p>

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@bigpup,
Thanks for testing, and your suggestion.
I have accepted lines 1, 4, and 5.

The modified entry, that will appear in the next version, follows:

<b>DiskPup</b><br />
Does no partitioning or formating; The drive will need to already be partitioned and formatted. <br />
Installs a single Puppy linux in a specified directory, and the boot loader (Grub2) in a specified fat32 partition.<br />
The Puppy linux directory can be on the same partition as the boot loader, or on a different partition.</p>

My rationale for not using lines 2, and 3, is that I want this stuff to focus on simply, what the utility does.

One day I might write some "How To" stuff, that includes recommendations.

gyro