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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Nov 2019, 17:09    Post subject:
Subject description: xz decompression support on Puppy?
 

There's a survey question on the Pale Moon forum, by Moonchild himself, https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=23273 asking about switching to .xz archives to reduce Pale Moon's tarball size. "Puppy Linux" is a mixed bag of various versions. Is anybody currently running Pale Moon on a Puppy version that has no support for xz? Before answering "yes", check if it's available, but not currently installed on your system. This survey is obviously limited to Puppies modern enough to run Pale Moon.
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Mon 18 Nov 2019, 00:58    Post subject:  

The oldest puppy where palemoon 28 runs is wary but it needs an unofficial glibc tweak and LC_ALL=C. Wary has not native xz compression capability but the package of palemoon for wary can easily be built with racy (which is derived from wary with new kernel and new xorg) for example: racy can manage xz compression. More recent puppies can manage xz compression as I know. So no problems for me.
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tallboy


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Nov 2019, 00:02    Post subject:  

I write this from a PM 28.7.2 in tahrpup64 6.0.6, and xz version 5.1.0alpha is present here.
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Nov 2019, 04:16    Post subject:  

I just booted Slacko Puppy 5.3 off of a USB stick on a refurbished Lenovo laptop. "xz --help" shows a help screen, so I know it exists there. I believe it's the oldest "official" Puppy that supports Pale Moon 28.x. Slacko 5.4 is currently installed on the laptop hard drive.
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2019, 13:51    Post subject:
Subject description: Pale Moon 28.8.0 released
 

The latest version has been released (28.8.0). See http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml for change list. For those who download tarballs direct from http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/ note that they're now "xz" format. "tar" is generic enough that it can figure out file type if you have the appropriate unarchiver on your system. E.g. for palemoon-28.8.0.linux-i686.tar.xz you can simply command line...

tar xf pale*.xz

Note that wildcards are capable of unarchiving multiple files, if they're present in the directory.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019, 08:01    Post subject:  

Pale Moon has built in update with v28.0 onward.
So, simply use internal update to get v28.8.0
Just did it.

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Mike Walsh


Joined: 28 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 20:18    Post subject:  

@ All:-

Is it just me....or is the page scrolling in Palemoon much smoother (and somewhat faster now) than it was previously?

Prior to today's update to 28.8.0, scrolling on the big old Compaq was always a touch jerky (and somewhat erratic, speed-wise). Now, it seems much smoother than before.....and somewhat faster, too. Far more like Firefox now!

I'm not complaining. If this is a change from Moonchild and the Palemoon team, it's a very welcome one. I like it!


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bigpup


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2019, 20:41    Post subject:  

Scrolling was one of the big problems in the early days of Pale Moon.
They have settings for it in preferences, but it always seemed to have issues.
I too have noticed it getting much better.
Maybe they finally figured it out! Very Happy

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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 05:14    Post subject: palemoon ui.scrollToClick = 3  

scroll in palemoon
as in latest firefox

about:config
right click
add new

ui.scrollToClick = 3

integer
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nic007


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 06:10    Post subject:  

All Puppys with kernel version 3 and newer can handle xz compression.
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01101001b


Joined: 08 Mar 2017
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Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina

PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 20:56    Post subject: Re: palemoon ui.scrollToClick = 3  

zagreb999 wrote:
scroll in palemoon
as in latest firefox

about:config
right click
add new

ui.scrollToClick = 3

Apparently, valid values are 0 and 1 (I guess any value apart from 0 is taken as "1"). Just my two cents Smile
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jrb


Joined: 11 Dec 2007
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Location: Smithers, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Tue 24 Dec 2019, 10:30    Post subject: Palemoon 28.8.0 in lupu-528
Subject description: Making an old pup work again
 

I just got watchdogs palemoon-28.8.0-glibc219tweak.pet to work in lupu-528. Very Happy

First I copied these libs from Racy-5.5
    libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
    libglib-2.0.so.0
    libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
    libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
Then I booted lupu-528.005 and installed palemoon-28.8.0-glibc219tweak.pet mentioned above.

Then I placed the copied libs in /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib and started palemoon. And here I am posting from it. Cool
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Tue 24 Dec 2019, 15:28    Post subject: Re: Palemoon 28.8.0 in lupu-528
Subject description: Making an old pup work again
 

jrb wrote:
I just got watchdogs palemoon-28.8.0-glibc219tweak.pet to work in lupu-528. Very Happy


Great achievement! Thanks! I have no more my old lupu install but I think you did a beautiful present to many lupu fans.
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Mike Walsh


Joined: 28 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Dec 2019, 16:42    Post subject:  

Nice one, jrb..!

I've been meaning to investigate how to do that for quite some time. Up until now I've only had Palemoon running from a chroot 'jail', alongside Iron 69 and FF68esr.....but having it running natively is, of course, tons better.....

Cheers, mate! (And that is a nice 'Xmas' prezzie, too. Second one from the forum today, in fact.. !) Laughing


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sindi

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Dec 2019, 19:28    Post subject: Re: Palemoon 28.8.0 in lupu2016 missing gdkpixbuf2?  

[quote="jrb"]I just got watchdogs [url=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1035893#1035893]palemoon-28.8.0-glibc219tweak.pet[/url] to work in [url=http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/]lupu-528[/url]. :D

First I copied these libs from Racy-5.5[list]libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
libglib-2.0.so.0
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0[/list]Then I booted lupu-528.005 and installed palemoon-28.8.0-glibc219tweak.pet mentioned above.

Then I placed the copied libs in [b]/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib[/b] and started palemoon. And here I am posting from it. 8)[/quote]

I tried this in lupu2016 and got a GdkPixBuf error, which someone else who installed Komodo fixed by installing gdkpixbuf2, which lupu2016 does not have in package manager.
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