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Lynx 2-8-7 A simple text web browser
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sindi

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 13:48    Post subject: Wikipedia no longer works with lynx 2.8.8 either only newer  

Wikipedia works with lynx 2.8.9rel1 but not with 2.8.8 as of Jan 1 2020.
Javascript is not needed for it or duckduckgo.com/lite/.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 17:16    Post subject:  

I have compiled lynx 2.8.9rel1 for Puppy Linux Bionic64 if any one is interested.

here is the Link -> http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/PET/Bionic/lynx2.8.9rel.1-x86_64.pet
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sindi

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 17:58    Post subject: lynx 2.8.9rel1 for puppies 5  

Thank you for the Bionic 64 version but my laptops run older 32-bit puppies.

The main one won't run puppies 6 (video is scrambled). Lupu and racy work.

Can you compile lynx statically on your setup or dynamically to work with lupu 2016, racy 5.5 (glibc 2.2.0 upgrade) and
precise-lite 5.7.1 (glibc 2.2.0). Racy won't run on another laptop.
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jrb


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 18:00    Post subject: Re: Wikipedia no longer works with lynx 2.8.8 either only newer  

sindi wrote:
Wikipedia works with lynx 2.8.9rel1 but not with 2.8.8 as of Jan 1 2020.
Javascript is not needed for it or duckduckgo.com/lite/.

I just downloaded https://github.com/browsh-org/browsh/releases/download/v1.6.4/browsh_1.6.4_linux_386.
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Browsh is a fully-modern text-based browser. It renders anything that a modern browser can; HTML5, CSS3, JS, video and even WebGL. Its main purpose is to be run on a remote server and accessed via SSH/Mosh or the in-browser HTML service in order to significantly reduce bandwidth and thus both increase browsing speeds and decrease bandwidth costs.

Browsh is available as a single static binary on all major platforms. The only dependency is a recent 57+ version of Firefox.

I ran it in Precise-light and Tahrpup. I don't have a Firefox that runs in Racy but it sounds like it should work.
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rufwoof


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Dec 2019, 20:28    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
I have compiled lynx 2.8.9rel1

Same version as what I use, but I pretty much only use it for pasting text from Linux to my Android phone. SSHelper that I use for sshfs mounting the phone also hosts a clipboard access Web server that provides read/write access to the Android clipboard from any browser on the local network. Lynx is great for that.

tallboy wrote:
Do you use lynx as a regular browser, or just as a file browser like I do?

I use mc ... as my file manager, text editor and program launcher (user menu). In mc you can set lynx like navigation (Options/Panel/Navigation).

Combined with screen (terminal multiplexor) and you can use its copy buffer to arrow/scroll around, and select/copy text using the spacebar in readiness for pasting into your Android/wherever.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Dec 2019, 10:30    Post subject:  

Interesting, I'll try that. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Dec 2019, 13:20    Post subject:  

Hello sindi

working on a build of lynx2.9.0dev.4-i386.pet created on a Lucid 5.2.8.005 running the stock kernel 2.6.33.2 SMP

Update : it works but not with https connections and duckduckgo has the warning on this most recent Lynx version which I believe is not Lynx, since it is the newest, but the openssl libs available in Lucid that are the problem.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2019, 08:02    Post subject:  

Hello rockedge,

I compiled lynx2.9.0dev.4 in Dpup Wheezy and even the lynx homepage gives an SSL error initially (testing in a fresh pfix=ram boot), but installing the ca-certificates package fixes this. Not sure if it will in Lupu as the OpenSSL version is older in that.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/ca-certificates-2019-03-08.pet

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2019, 09:11    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Interesting, I'll try that. Very Happy

With SSHelper running on the android phone open lynx on your laptop to the ip of the phone port 8081 (by default).

For me to mount the android over usb cable I use simple-mtpfs where I mount that as /mnt/android on my laptop

simple-mtpfs --device 1 /mnt/android

For mounting via wifi I use ...

sshfs 192.168.1.$IP:/storage/emulated/0 /mnt/android -p 2222

where 192.168.1.$IP (is again set to the IP of the phone - i.e. I prompt for that and its usually a 192.168.1.X type number, so I just prompt for the last value and set IP= ... to that). Default phone password is usually 'admin' .. but best to change that.

After that you can use rox, mc, whatever to just move files around (or access/edit files etc.).

With a phone clip to laptop monitor attachment along the lines of the attached, you can be in cli/text only laptop whilst watching a movie on the phone (or whatever)
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2019, 10:30    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Hello rockedge,

I compiled lynx2.9.0dev.4 in Dpup Wheezy and even the lynx homepage gives an SSL error initially (testing in a fresh pfix=ram boot), but installing the ca-certificates package fixes this. Not sure if it will in Lupu as the OpenSSL version is older in that.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/ca-certificates-2019-03-08.pet
I just tried your links-2.18-wheezy.pet in Precise-light and, with the installation of your ca-certificates-2019-03-08.pet it worked flawlessly, even on www.duckduckgo.com and wikipedia.org.

Once again, Thanks, J
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2019, 13:08    Post subject:  

I tried the PET and it did not work on Lucid. I then tried ca-certificates_20090814ubuntu0.10.04.1_all.deb but also no luck.

Lynx 2.9.0dev works on Lucid 5.2.8 but only http so far. I went and compiled some openssl versions to see if any improvment but no.
Palemoon 27.4.1 works great though.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Dec 2019, 21:45    Post subject: lynx 2.8.9rel1 for Precise Puppy 5.7.1
Subject description: lupu and racy lack libtinfo.so.5
 

I just downloaded lynx 2.8.9rel1 source code from Linux from Scratch
and devx from Precise Puppy 5.7.1, working in the updated Light version of 5.7.1,
and compiled a lynx binary that works with https sites like duckduckgo.com/lite
and Wikipedia in Precise Puppy 5.7.1. In lupu 2016 and racy 5.5 ldd shows that
it cannot find libtinfo.so.5. In those OSes it accesses http but not https sites.

I did ./configure --with-ssl after it could not access https sites without that.

http://keesan.freeshell.org/puppy/lynx2891-precise571

The files needed by lynx are in lynxpkg.tgz. The new lynx is 1.5MB.
and worked with lynx.cfg etc. in the original locations. Old lynx 2.8.8 binary is 2MB.
I did not make a pet. My cert.pem is from 2018.

Someone steered me to a wheezy pet for links 2.20 that works in Precise
(but not in debiandog wheezy without added libraries).

Lynx has fewer dependencies than links2 or elinks.

I used it to display graphical hourly weather forecasts with fbi, also
to view photos in console mode. Very fast.

I will try browsh on some laptop with space for Firefox 57+.
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2019, 03:02    Post subject:  

I recommend using Opera Mini running on an emulator for general web browsing. You need Java though but otherwise standalone. Better option than any other text/html only based browsers in my view.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2019, 23:01    Post subject: browsh, and lynx on android 2.3 phone  

Browsh appears to require X and a mouse, and to display graphics, none of which I want in a text-only browser. Lynx can display images in terminal mode (no X needed) with numbered links.

I discovered that Firefox 60 ESR works in the latest Precise 5.7.1 light (updated to glibc 2.20 already) and automatically downloads and installs version 68 ESR, which also works. They need GTK+ 3. I run Pale Moon and Seamonkey and Firefox from their own directory, not installed. Browsh could not find Firefox.

I can no longer access Wikipedia or duckduckgo.com/lite/ on my HTC EVO 4G Android 2.3 phone from 2010, with 'browser', Naked Browser, Via (old version), Opera Mini, or UC Mini 10.7.

So I ssh'ed to my account at sdf.org and ran lynx from it (also links, elinks, and w3m text browsers). w3m is said to display tables and images and it needs a recent gc to compile.

Did someone from this discussion leave me a private message?
It seems not to be there.
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Dec 2019, 04:38    Post subject:  

Thought this might be of interest to some lynx users.
Threre's another command-line text browser http://edbrowse.org. I haven't really used it, so I don't know how it compares with lynx. The concept *is* different, therefore comparisons might not be fair. edbrowse seems to have some interesting features.

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