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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct 2019, 10:13    Post subject:  

Some issues that may only arise when compiling.
Now testing in 8.0+13

The file /usr/bin/xxd is a symlink to busybox which errors out.
Suggest replacing this with the real xxd executable from the xxd package (which is now separate but in earlier distros was part of the vim-common package).

The package libglib2.0-dev-bin should perhaps be added to the devx. The executable glib-compile-resources is in this package and was needed in a test build of netsurf-3.9

The libcurl situation still seems a bit peculiar. I think you are still missing a libcurl.so development symlink from the devx and this should be a link to libcurl.so.4.5.0 (the real lib) and not to the other libcurl "flavours" such as libcurl-gnutls or libcurl-nss. In the case of the latter, remove the dev package fully if the shared libs are not present (which they seem not to be as nothing actually depends on them as things are). The test netsurf build was trying to link to libcurl-nss and then didn't work when built. I had to add libcurl.so manually. You might also need a libcurl.so.3 for legacy as well as the libcurl.so.4

Also, I have re-compiled and re-uploaded DeaDBeeF-1.8.2 with the libcurl-nss dependency now corrected and linking to the usual libcurl.so.4

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Gera

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Oct 2019, 16:56    Post subject:  

I have BionicPup32, August 2019 edition.

I have save file *.4fs on hard drive. I noticed that every 5 seconds hard drive is accessed even when nothing is happening. I suspect that operating system(OS) is automatically saving changes to save file *.4fs. How can I increase that period to 60 seconds?

And another issue is Light Web Browser that freezes ~once per day (I suppose it's Firefox 48, build-in browser in August edition). It freezes OS unexpectedly, when it happened usually I had YouTube pages with videos opened in 2 tabs. Nothing helps: ctrl-w to close tab or ctrl-shift-w to close browser window. Mouse pointer is slowed and soon everything hangs completely, plus CPU temperature is rising. Only ctrl-alt-backspace helps to restart X. Is that a known issue? What can help to prevent that hanging?
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2019, 07:42    Post subject:  

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I have save file *.4fs on hard drive. I noticed that every 5 seconds hard drive is accessed even when nothing is happening. I suspect that operating system(OS) is automatically saving changes to save file *.4fs. How can I increase that period to 60 seconds?

When you say not doing anything.
Is Bionicpup32 just booted to a desktop?
That is all that has been done?
What is Bionicpup32 installed on and booted from?
What format is the partition the save file is on?

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2019, 09:11    Post subject:  

Gera wrote:
I have BionicPup32, August 2019 edition.

I have save file *.4fs on hard drive. I noticed that every 5 seconds hard drive is accessed even when nothing is happening. I suspect that operating system(OS) is automatically saving changes to save file *.4fs. How can I increase that period to 60 seconds?

And another issue is Light Web Browser that freezes ~once per day (I suppose it's Firefox 48, build-in browser in August edition). It freezes OS unexpectedly, when it happened usually I had YouTube pages with videos opened in 2 tabs. Nothing helps: ctrl-w to close tab or ctrl-shift-w to close browser window. Mouse pointer is slowed and soon everything hangs completely, plus CPU temperature is rising. Only ctrl-alt-backspace helps to restart X. Is that a known issue? What can help to prevent that hanging?


Hi Gera,
There is a menu item that can control save interval.

Applications-->Setup-->PupControl Panel-->Event Manager-->Save Session

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2019, 12:31    Post subject:  

That only works in pupmode 7 or 13 operation.

Pupmode 12 directly writes to the save all the time.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2019, 15:33    Post subject:  

Save file is on ntfs. I load from USB and Pupmode=12.
File /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs is empty
Should I change it? Will that affect how often Pup writes to save file?
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 03:46    Post subject: fix-usb  

@perdido
I suppose you know about the script fix-usb.sh you can use after dd.
It is in all iso's for newer Puppys and it was first in Fatdog:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/uefi-flashdrive.html
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Oct 2019, 12:19    Post subject:  

20-oct-2019

iso md5 = cff49b7f8e5ff7925c00e158cdfe5dc1 bionicpup32-8.0+14-uefi.iso

see post #1

Ubuntu updates....

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glene77is


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2019, 18:38    Post subject:  

[quote="Gera"]I have BionicPup32, August 2019 edition.
I have save file *.4fs on hard drive.
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I have been using Flash Drives with Puppy Linux for 7 years.
At one time I even removed the hard-drives from my XP computer
and continued operating for 3 years ( only using USB flash drives ).
Flash drives are 1/10 speed of a hard-drive, but completely portable.
Now, I use a flash drive for booting Puppy Linux,
and I can select the M$XP system
or any of my five insalled Puppy Linux systems.
So, I encourage the use of the USB flash drive method.


I suggest :
(1) use "parted" to create a Linux partition EXT-2 on your ntfs hard-drive.
(2) Place all your Linux files in the EXT-2 partition.
(3) create your initial savefile as a directory in the EXT-2 partition.

About the frequent 'saving to hard-disk' problem ,
the advice from BigPup and PerDido is very good.............
"Applications-->Setup-->PupControl Panel-->Event Manager-->Save Session"
Right on track, IF you are using the "savefile directory" method.

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dukecrom

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Oct 2019, 07:24    Post subject: PAE  

EDIT2 : Yipieh-yeah I got it running using this guide --->

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE

Basically it decribes how to use the forcepae parameter Smile

The syntax is not "forecpae" but "forcepae -- forcepae" Smile

EDIT: I found out that the Pentium M 1.7gHz FSB 400 CPU has PAE but it seems that it doesn't report it somehow.

So, can I to use forcepae?

Thanks in advance Smile


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I am using an old Thinkpad X32 with Pentium M 1.7 FSB 400, NON-PAE, NON-NX.

I want to use an up-to-date Puppy Linux Version and not some of those years old ones, so I put it on my YUMI stick and tried to install.
Alas I get the message that I should use forcepae and then that my CPU has no PAE and I should "use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"

Any chance that there will be a NON-PAE version which is not totally outdated?

I do not see the advantages of PAE on a 2GB, 32 bit machine using a small footprint distro which is known for to run on old Notebooks with low RAM profiles Smile

What can I install which is quite modern and up-to-date?

Thanks in advance Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Nov 2019, 03:25    Post subject:  

Sorry, posted in wrong place.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 23:24    Post subject: Tick Box for auto-launch handler in Bionic 64-bit  

Bionic 64 working well -- but I haven't figured out how to have Rox-filer automatically open up when a USB drive is inserted. This is important because it's for school computers so it's just one more stumbling block to the junior and senior high school students using Linux -- they are used plugging in their USB sticks and seeing the files auomatically. Of course, I could do this from Puppy 4.0 or so, right up through Xenial Pup -- how do I set this up in Bionical?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Nov 2019, 23:24    Post subject: Tick Box for auto-launch handler in Bionic 64-bit  

Bionic 64 working well -- but I haven't figured out how to have Rox-filer automatically open up when a USB drive is inserted. This is important because it's for school computers so it's just one more stumbling block to the junior and senior high school students using Linux -- they are used plugging in their USB sticks and seeing the files auomatically. Of course, I could do this from Puppy 4.0 or so, right up through Xenial Pup -- how do I set this up in Bionical?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019, 15:20    Post subject: Re: Tick Box for auto-launch handler in Bionic 64-bit  

Subito Piano wrote:
Bionic 64 working well

Posted to the wrong thread?

-- but I haven't figured out how to have Rox-filer automatically open up when a USB drive is inserted


Isn't that handled by 'hotplug support'? Menu>System>Puppy Event Manager>
Activate Tab, place "x" in "Activate desktop hotplug support" box. Or do you want 'rox' not merely to show the mounted USB-Key as a desktop drive icon, but to also open a Window showing the USB-Key's contents?
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Nov 2019, 16:19    Post subject:  

The latter, as is the case up through xenial Pup.

Apologies as to misreading the thread! Hmm -- maybe a 64-bit thing? I'm using 32-bit Xenial and wanted 64-bit for the students, so I chose the latest, Bionical. Yesterday I downloaded 64-bit Xenial try it out. If it works as in 32-bit, I'll be fine.

We Linux enthusiasts tend to be quite a bit bleeding-edge oriented, always changing up to the latest version....Puppy lovers being perhaps less so...

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