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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 07:10    Post subject:  32-bit UPup Eoan Ermine (UPupEE) 19.10 (07 December 2019)
Subject description: Woof-CE Testing Branch build
 

Woof-CE Testing Branch build

UPupEE-19.10+3-uefi

Ubuntu Eoan Ermine components
Woof-CE Testing branch 5fc3e8fe3;2019-12-01 17:02:13
Kernel 4.9.197 32-bit pae
Same app mix as BionicPup32

Note: Eoan Ermine will become unsupported by Ubuntu after July 2020
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 07:10    Post subject:  

LXQt add-on (by ydrv):

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/Desktops/LXQt-ydrv/ydrv_upupee_19.10.sfs/download
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 07:10    Post subject:  

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B.K. Johnson

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 09:40    Post subject:  

Quote:
Note: Eoan Ermine will become unsupported by Ubuntu after July 2020
Considering the anticipatrd short life of Eoan Ermine, can the more astute say what are the benefits of downloading the fella? Confused
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2019, 08:54    Post subject:  

@peebee: 19.10 +0 with stock 4.9.197 kernel installed as an update to PR10. Grub4Dos install to SSD on the 2nd gen Fujitsu S761 laptop.

Clean boot and suspend/resume. System and Dmesg checks all good, idle CPU use 1% and mem use 94Mb (Lxtask reported). Mem/SSD throughput continues to be good (2.3Gb/sec using memspeed_tester.sh), and glxgears FPS stellar at 9200 on this hardware. Early microcode not supported in this kernel as in the previous 4.9.141 thus
Code:
 dmesg | grep -i microcode
MDS: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode
core: PEBS disabled due to CPU errata, please upgrade microcode
on this hardware. No multimedia tests other than some youtubes in SlimJet 23.0.11.0 run-as-spot from SFS. Overall, continues to be quick and solid for me.

Enjoying the true synaptics driver acceleration while it lasts Sad

@B.K.Johnson: I'm on board because I like the snap of this series of pups and based on my experience with upup aa,bb,cc,dd, and ee what I learn should apply to upupff if it can be built. That is supposed to be a LTS release. All of the fairly extensive mods I did in aa to blend pcmanfm in with this JWM/rox based pup have worked in bb, cc, dd, and ee to my delight. Just this old dogs way of thinking.

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2019, 09:32    Post subject:
Subject description: "update to PR10"?
 

Marv (in part) wrote:
..19.10 +0 with stock 4.9.197 kernel installed as an update to PR10..
Marv, please excuse my deficent knowledge: how would I do the 'update to PR10'?
As of now, I've downloaded this new Ermine, put some of its files in a directory, changed menu.lst, and rebooted. Not surprisingly, it booted fine on this Dell laptop E6410.

In the past, I would have made a savefolder after booting a new puppy, and then gradually made changes by copying from the old savefolder.

Apparently you booted the PR10, and then updated it to this new version? Could you please tell me how to do that?

Code:
ls -l /initrd/mnt/dev_save/Puppys/Ermine/
total 238408
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   1083719 Oct 18 04:45 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 213262336 Oct 18 04:47 puppy_upupee_19.10.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   5528352 Oct 18 04:43 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  24248320 Oct 18 04:44 zdrv_upupee_19.10.sfs

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2019, 11:30    Post subject:
Subject description: "update to PR10"?
 

sheldonisaac wrote:
Marv (in part) wrote:
..19.10 +0 with stock 4.9.197 kernel installed as an update to PR10..
Marv, please excuse my deficent knowledge: how would I do the 'update to PR10'?
As of now, I've downloaded this new Ermine, put some of its files in a directory, changed menu.lst, and rebooted. Not surprisingly, it booted fine on this Dell laptop E6410.

In the past, I would have made a savefolder after booting a new puppy, and then gradually made changes by copying from the old savefolder.

Apparently you booted the PR10, and then updated it to this new version? Could you please tell me how to do that?

Code:
ls -l /initrd/mnt/dev_save/Puppys/Ermine/
total 238408
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   1083719 Oct 18 04:45 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 213262336 Oct 18 04:47 puppy_upupee_19.10.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   5528352 Oct 18 04:43 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  24248320 Oct 18 04:44 zdrv_upupee_19.10.sfs
Semantically maybe I should have said update from my PR10 install that I was using as my daily. At any rate, I have a small savefile that carries look'n'feel primarily. It's been around for a while, at least through all the PR versions of upupee. When I do an update, I first backup a copy of my savefile, designated PR10 in this case, then rename a copy of the savefile appropriately, mount and scrub that savefile, particularly if a kernel change is expected. /etc/udev, /etv/X11, /etc/simple_network_setup, /etc/asound.conf, /var/local/xorg_udev, /lib/modules if present, and any patches I have applied that are fixed in the update. This forces a clean boot. Replace the old system files in the relevant boot directory with the ones from the new iso, and reboot choosing the 'new' savefile. Seems complicated but it really is not. I have a little script that does the basic scrub and I always glance through the savefile anyway to see if anything looks odd. I use savefiles rather than folders as I like the modularity and the size limit enforces some tidyness. All my data and shared profiles for email, browser, clipboard, current work, downloads, etc. are on a separate data partition shared by all the pups in my kennel.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Oct 2019, 07:57    Post subject:  

Quote:
Note: Eoan Ermine will become unsupported by Ubuntu after July 2020

So what Shocked Rolling Eyes

The only thing this may cause is Puppy Package Manager will still show stuff that may not be the latest version.
Ubuntu will stop maybe updating the Eoan Ermine repositories.

Well, get over it!

Most of the stuff, in any of the Ubuntu repositories, are not the latest version of anything. Shocked
Why?
Because, if they update a program to a newer version.
There is a good chance, the dependency stuff needs updated, to run it.
That could turn into a big bunch of stuff.
That could cause, versions of other programs still used, to not work anymore.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Oct 2019, 16:02    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
LXQt add-on (by ydrv):

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/Desktops/LXQt-ydrv/ydrv_upupee_19.10.sfs/download

Got to try this. (Note to myself.)

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct 2019, 21:23    Post subject:  

Hi Peebee. Thank you for this new puppy. I have a question. Where is the file
Huge Kernel 4.9.197 32-bit pae? I will try to build from woof ce. Thank you.
Edit:
I try to build using woof ce 191101 and got this failed download:
DOWNLOAD FAIL: htop-2.2.0-i686_ucc1808.pet
DOWNLOAD FAIL: leafpad_0.8.18.1-5_i386.deb
DOWNLOAD FAIL: lx_gtk3_prep.pet
DOWNLOAD FAIL: z_libssl.pet
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Nov 2019, 07:20    Post subject:  

recobayu wrote:
Hi Peebee. Thank you for this new puppy. I have a question. Where is the file
Huge Kernel 4.9.197 32-bit pae? I will try to build from woof ce. Thank you.
Edit:
I try to build using woof ce 191101 and got this failed download:
DOWNLOAD FAIL: htop-2.2.0-i686_ucc1808.pet
DOWNLOAD FAIL: leafpad_0.8.18.1-5_i386.deb
DOWNLOAD FAIL: lx_gtk3_prep.pet
DOWNLOAD FAIL: z_libssl.pet

Hi @recobayu

Thanks for your report.....

I hadn't set things up for other people to do woof-ce builds.... in fact I'm amazed and puzzled that those were the only download fails....... I suspect that older pets are being found in other cases......

Anyway - I've uploaded k4.9.197 to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/huge-kernels/

and I've uploaded the missing components you've identified to: http://www.smokey01.com/peebee/ in various locations.

I also found there was an error for the leafpad entry in http://www.smokey01.com/peebee/upupee/Packages-puppy-upupee-extra which I have updated.

If you have further problems - please send me a pm.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2019, 07:15    Post subject:  

UPupEE-19.10+1 is available - see post #1

Woof-CE updates
Ubuntu updates
Touchpad config - psynclient replaces flsynclient

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2019, 10:55    Post subject:  

19.10 frugal Grub4Dos install on my Fujitsu S761 updated to 19.10 +1. No problems seen as yet. Smooth and quick. My PcManFm 1.2.5 integration pkg. first made in upupaa continues to work well. I used psynclient for the first time and the flsynclient to psynclient transition was smooth. I did make one change to psynclient to allow the Accelfactor I use which is higher than 0.010. I posted it to that thread.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2019, 13:05    Post subject:  

@ BKJ:-

B.K. Johnson wrote:
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Note: Eoan Ermine will become unsupported by Ubuntu after July 2020
Considering the anticipated short life of Eoan Ermine, can the more astute say what are the benefits of downloading the fella? Confused


I doubt there's any real benefits, if at all. But it's a well known fact that some people like to always be on the very 'cutting edge' of everything. And they don't care if that means 'upgrading'/'updating' everything far more often than most.

That's the way they like it... (*shrug*) And let's face it, doing so in Puppy involves a significant amount less grief than it would if you were doing the same with mainstream distros. I mean, with Puppy you can keep a 'good' one as your 'daily driver', and just 'play around' with the new versions.

I never understood, when I was still a member of the Ubuntu Forums, why it was considered 'normal' to ditch a perfectly stable, well-fettled LTS version for the first in the next round of short-termers, the instant it appeared. But it seemed to be expected of you....

Funny lot. (*shakes head in amusement*) But every Linux community has, indeed needs, its regular crew of inveterate 'testers'. We're no different.

On the Ubuntu Forums, there's a 'hard-core' group of members that are always at least 6 months ahead of everybody else. These are the 'beta-testers', and the instant a version reaches release status, they immediately ditch that & move on to downloading the very first, rough drafts of what will become the next release in 6 months time. And this, apparently, is ALL they do....an endless, never-varying routine of downloading daily builds, every day, installing, methodically testing, filing bug-reports.....before turning round and doing it all over again the very next day! Rinse, wash, and repeat.....day in, day out, ad infinitum.

Crazy way to live.....but developers rely on people like that.


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2019, 14:10    Post subject:  

Having millions of willing testers (--current versions) is great for those that like to track the likes of old stable, that's still updated for security issues, but otherwise very very stable ... and well tested (across millions if not billions of hours and a very broad "test-bed" i.e. 'live/current'). Debian old-stable is the primary example for that. Fixed/trusted repository, extremely stable. What bugs may exist are known/documented and you can work around those. Personally however I gave up on Debian when they legally locked themselves into using systemd.
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