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fredx181 · Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 4481 Location: holland

Here's a thread with info about how to solve some possible issues with the latest Palemoon.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115266
For users running on machines with Intel graphics, but probably not all Intel graphics are affected, (I have it also, but no such problems for me)

Fred

backi · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 2007 Location: GERMANY

Hi !
I am not really satisfied with new Versions of Palemoon 28.xxx.
Since all my Add-ons ( Imtranslater-Ublock Origin-Umatrix -Disconnect- Open With ) no longer working and could not find any adequate Substitute ......it does not make any sense for me to use it ( any longer ) .
Lack of Ublock and Umatrix makes this new Version really slow .

So I now did (re) discovered Firefox Quantum again .I am amazed how blazing fast it works .......of course all my Add-Ons are working too .
Also just switched back to Palemoon 27.9.4 and all my Frustrations are gone and my Add-Ons are also back again .

Did give Palemoon 28.4 a real fair Chance.........but sorry .......maybe later ....
What`s your Experience/Opinion ?

Btw:Switched all my Internet Browsers and Thunderbird to "Portable" Versions .

Dont know if there is any Advantage ( beside of being "portable" ) in it or if there are any ( hidden ) Downsides to it . Maybe anybody can explain .
But somehow i like it this Way .

Regards !

Semme · Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 8427 Location: World_Hub

Backi, check this out on PM 28.4.0! >> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1020121#1020121

a_salty_dogg · Joined: 15 Dec 2013 Posts: 181

@ backi

The current latest Ublock Origin version compatible with Palemoon can be found by going to this page and scrolling down to the first entry headed (in large blue font, thus) "firefox-legacy-x.xx.x.x", then clicking on "uBlock0.firefox-legacy.xpi" and installing in the usual way.

EDIT - Sorry Semme, our posts crossed! Embarassed

Though many thanks to you and 666philb for that link and add-on, didn't know about it

backi · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 2007 Location: GERMANY

Hi Salty Dog -----Semme !

Thanks for Advice ....... so i got all my Add-ons working on Palemoon 28.4 .

But........still not convinced from Version 28.4 -----
Made some Test....... even Palemoon 27.9.4 is definitely snappier----
Using 64 Bit Versions on a Dell Precision M6600 with enough Horsepower .....
As a ( former) hard-core Palemoon User ..... sorry but i have to say..... Firefox Quantum is a Beast...........can`t be beat by Palemoon (in my Case ) ......lightning fast .....easy on Cpu .....low on ram (on a 64Bit Os ....posting now from it on Devuan Dog with E17( in Reality E22) Enlightenment Desktop ) .

Seems i am back now to Firefox .....unless someone can give me some real good Reasons to keep Palemoon which i doubt that it will happen .(means .....make it faster )
Probably Palemoon is better for older Laptops which is (no longer ) the Case for me .
Maybe later (again) .

Edit :
O.K Palemoon 27.9.4 and Firefox are nearly equal fast .......but 28.4 still a Problem Child .

6502coder · Posted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 20:34 Post subject:

I added Mike's portable PaleMoon PET to a frugal install of SailorE's Slacko583, along with Mike's GTK3 PET, updated to the current PaleMoon 28.4.1, and find that the performance is surprisingly good on my ancient 1.GHz Celeron M laptop. I had about given up trying to find an up-to-date browser that would run decently on YouTube on this hardware. Nice job, Mike!

Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

nic007 · Posted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 06:15 Post subject:

I have a question with regards to these portable versions. As I Inderstand it, it is self-contained running from a folder wherever you place it. Do these versions run in preference to the base sfs (as in layer of system operation) with regards to newer glibc's, etc? Pets load "on top" of the base sfs and sfs addons at "lower level" in comparison to the base sfs.

watchdog · Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 2022 Location: Italy

I know that you can't perform a glibc upgrade with an sfs: you have to install a working deb or pet file. The new glibc must be at top level. So I think that these portable versions run at top level with preference to the base sfs.

nic007 · Posted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 08:12 Post subject:

nic007 · Posted: Thu 12 Sep 2019, 02:03 Post subject:

Just as a matter of interest - Most browsers can be downloaded as self-contained tarballs from the official sites. These are actually portable versions already because all you need to do is to extract the tarball anywhere you like and run the application from its executable in the extracted folder.

Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

nic007 · Posted: Thu 12 Sep 2019, 07:53 Post subject:

Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

@ Nic:-

Mm. Huh. I'm really not the person to ask about the ins & outs of how precisely something works in Puppy.....specially not with regard to the various layers (which I honestly don't understand).

My approach to doing stuff like this in Puppy is that if I can get something to work- and can consistently reproduce that behaviour - then that's good enough for me. I'm then happy to share.

If I had to guess where the browser items are loaded from, I'd hazard a guess that it's pup_ro2; that seems to be the layer where most items appear to run from in Puppy. I'll say this, mate; your curiosity runs deeper than mine..! Laughing

I'm really not that concerned about the how or the why of things working, so long as they do! As long as they run, that'll do me... Smile

Mike.

nic007 · Posted: Thu 12 Sep 2019, 10:14 Post subject: