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LeithR

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 11:27    Post subject:  Problem with LibreOffice in Slacko
Subject description: 2004 Dell Inspiron 8600 w/ 750 MB RAM
 

I'm building up a machine on an old Dell laptop details below.
"Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Sun 25 Aug 2019

Current Time: 19:42:19
System Uptime: 2 hr 13 min
Load Average: 0.05 0.11 0.13

====> BASE SYSTEM <====

PC Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
Product Name: Inspiron 8600

Motherboard Vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
Product Name: 0Y4572

BIOS Vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
Version: A10
Release Date: 08/30/2004

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
Max Speed: 1700 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:1600 MHz

Frequency governor : ondemand
Freq. scaling driver : acpi-cpufreq

Sensor status is not available, or required kernel drivers are not loaded.

Personal Storage File:
Name: slackosave-DavidBlack
Total Size: MB
Free Space: MB
Location: partition sda1

Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 749 MB
Used RAM: 613 MB
Free RAM: 136 MB
Buffers: 41 MB
Total Swap: 1000 MB
Free Swap: 1000 MB

Linux Kernel: 3.14.55 (i686)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Mon Oct 26 11:54:01 AEST 2015
PAE Enabled: No

Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.3.0
Window Manager: JWM v2.3.2
Desktop Start: xwin jwm

Development:
Bash: 4.2.53
Geany: 1.25
Gtkdialog: 0.8.4
Perl: 5.18.1
--
busybox: 1.23.1
dhcpcd: 6.0.5
GlibC: 2.17
OpenSSL: 1.0.1p 9 Jul 2015, built on: Thu Jul 9 13:20:20 2015
wpa_supplicant: 2.4

Username: root
Language: en_GB.UTF-8
Keyboard: uk
Timezone: Europe/London

Firewall: On (ip_tables active)
Network Status: eth1
Wireless Network: TALKTALK1454F7
Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power:16 dBm
Link Quality=100/100 Signal=-23 dBm
Session Data: Received 12.9 MB, Sent 1.1 MB
Monthly Data: Received 492 MB, Sent 18 MB

Hostname: puppypc21047
Network IP Address: 192.168.1.12
Domain Name Server (DNS): 192.168.1.1
Hardware Address (MAC): 00:0C:F1:4E:FD:A3

Boot Partition: sda1 (Size 36G, Free 34G)
Boot File System: ext3
Boot Media: atahd

PUPMODE=12
PUPSFS=sda1,ext3,/slacko6.3.0frugal/puppy_slacko_6.3.0.sfs
PUPSAVE=sda1,ext3,/slacko6.3.0frugal/slackosave

====> BATTERY (BAT0) <====

Complete Report:
Name DELL 0002P69
SBDS Manufacture Date 2004-06-01
design capacity 72000 mWh
last full capacity 68160 mWh
design voltage 11100 mV
design capacity warning 7200 mWh
design capacity low 2181 mWh
capacity granularity 1 720 mWh
capacity granularity 2 720 mWh
capacity state ok
charging state charged
present rate unknown
remaining capacity 72000 mWh
present voltage 12302 mV
AC-state on-line

Capacity Summary:
Remaining capacity: 72000 mAh, 105.6% of last full capacity
Design capacity: 72000 mAh
Last full capacity: 68160 mAh, 94.6% of design capacity
Capacity loss: 5.4%

====> DISPLAY <====

Display Specifications:
+ Monitor VertRefresh: 60.1 times/s
+ Screen Dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
+ Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
+ Xorg Driver in use: nouveau
+ Loaded Modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb synaptics
+ X.Org version: 1.14.3

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
+ Direct Rendering: Yes
+ Vendor: nouveau
+ Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV34
+ Version: 1.5 Mesa 9.1.7

VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] [10de:0324] (rev a1)
+ Kernel Driver: nouveau
+ Memory Used: 918.75 KB
+ Path: /lib/modules/3.14.55/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
+ Description: nVidia Riva/TNT/GeForce/Quadro/Tesla

====> MULTIMEDIA <====

Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 01)
+ Kernel Driver: snd_intel8x0
+ Memory Used: 22.16 KB
+ Path: /lib/modules/3.14.55/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
+ Description: Intel 82801AA, 82901AB, i810, i820, i830, i840, i845, MX440; SiS 7012; Ali 5455

====> NETWORK <====

Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T [14e4:4401] (rev 01)
+ Kernel Driver: b44
+ Memory Used: 23.65 KB
+ Path: /lib/modules/3.14.55/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/b44.ko
+ Driver Version: 2.0
+ Description: Broadcom 44xx/47xx 10/100 PCI ethernet driver

Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter [8086:1043] (rev 04)
+ Kernel Driver: ipw2100
+ Memory Used: 61.83 KB
+ Path: /lib/modules/3.14.55/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2x00/ipw2100.ko
+ Driver Version: git-1.2.2
+ Description: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver

====> INPUT DEVICES <====

ALPS PS/2 Device
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Dell Dell USB Optical Mouse
Lid Switch
PC Speaker
Power Button
Sleep Button
Video Bus

====> PCI DEVICES <====

Host bridge
+ Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=3340 Rev=03
+ Kernel Driver=agpgart-intel

PCI bridge
+ Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=3341 Rev=03

USB controller
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M USB UHCI Controller #1
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24c2 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=uhci_hcd

USB controller
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M USB UHCI Controller #2
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24c4 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=uhci_hcd

USB controller
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M USB UHCI Controller #3
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24c7 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=uhci_hcd

USB controller
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM ICH4/ICH4-M USB2 EHCI Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24cd Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=ehci-pci

PCI bridge
+ Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=2448 Rev=81

ISA bridge
+ Intel Corporation 82801DBM ICH4-M LPC Interface Bridge
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24cc Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=lpc_ich
+ Kernel Module=lpc_ich

IDE interface
+ Intel Corporation 82801DBM ICH4-M IDE Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24ca Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=ata_piix

Multimedia audio controller
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M AC'97 Audio Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24c5 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=snd_intel8x0
+ Kernel Module=snd_intel8x0

Modem
+ Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M AC'97 Modem Controller
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=24c6 Rev=01
+ Kernel Module=snd_intel8x0m

VGA compatible controller
+ NVIDIA Corporation NV34M
+ VendorID=GeForce FX Go5200 64M
+ VendorID=10de DeviceID=0324 Rev=a1
+ Kernel Driver=nouveau
+ Kernel Module=nouveau

Ethernet controller
+ Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T
+ VendorID=14e4 DeviceID=4401 Rev=01
+ Kernel Driver=b44
+ Kernel Module=b44

CardBus bridge
+ Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller
+ VendorID=104c DeviceID=ac44 Rev=02
+ Kernel Driver=yenta_cardbus
+ Kernel Module=yenta_socket

FireWire IEEE 1394
+ Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller
+ VendorID=104c DeviceID=8029
+ Kernel Driver=firewire_ohci
+ Kernel Module=firewire_ohci

Network controller
+ Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
+ VendorID=8086 DeviceID=1043 Rev=04
+ Kernel Driver=ipw2100
+ Kernel Module=ipw2100

====> PRINTERS <====

DefaultPrinter CUPS-PDF

====> SCSI DEVICES <====

ATA WDC WD400VE-75HD Rev: 11.0
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SN-324S Rev: U303
SanDisk Cruzer Glide Rev: 1.26

====> SCSI PARTITIONS <====

ATA WDC WD400VE-75HD - sda: 40.0GB
SanDisk Cruzer Glide - sdc: 8004MB

sda1 ext3 36.3GB
sdc1 vfat 7.5GB

====> SCSI PARTITIONS MOUNTED <====

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 36G 293M 34G 1% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/sdb1 7.5G 3.9M 7.5G 1% /mnt/sdb1
/dev/sdc1 7.5G 3.8M 7.5G 1% /mnt/sdc1

====> USB DEVICES <====

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0002 Rev=03.14
Manufacturer=Linux 3.14.55 ehci_hcd
Product=EHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

VendorID=0781 ProductID=5575 Rev=01.26
Manufacturer=SanDisk
Product=Cruzer Glide
Driver=usb-storage

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0001 Rev=03.14
Manufacturer=Linux 3.14.55 uhci_hcd
Product=UHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0001 Rev=03.14
Manufacturer=Linux 3.14.55 uhci_hcd
Product=UHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

VendorID=413c ProductID=3012 Rev=43.01
Manufacturer=Dell
Product=Dell USB Optical Mouse
Driver=usbhid

VendorID=1d6b ProductID=0001 Rev=03.14
Manufacturer=Linux 3.14.55 uhci_hcd
Product=UHCI Host Controller
Driver=hub

--

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0781:5575 SanDisk Corp.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 413c:3012 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

=== END OF SUMMARY REPORT ==="
As can be seen, I've put Slacko 6.3 on the laptop its working perfectly well, I'm having problems putting Libreoffice onto this machine, I've tried the latest version LO 6.1 but it will not set up the .sfs file, I get a failure message without further explanation or details of why its failed.

What options do I have? I'm not tied to Slacko, is there another small distro that would work on this machine and get LO and other pretty standard apps onboard as well?

Thanks for reading and your assistance.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 12:15    Post subject:  

Tabrpup is a good choice if you are looking to try another puppy distro.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 13:34    Post subject:  

I think that would be Tahrpup 6.0.5 being suggested.

That processor is a 32bit.

So, only 32bit versions of Puppy will work.

Xenialpup 7.5 would be good to try to get a little newer and updated core files and programs.

Bionicpup32 8.0 may even work OK.

Anything not working?

There are other Puppy versions in Puppy Projects section of this forum.

Best if you can use one of the newer versions of Puppy Linux.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 14:26    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
I think that would be Tahrpup 6.0.5 being suggested.

That processor is a 32bit.

So, only 32bit versions of Puppy will work.

Xenialpup 7.5 would be good to try to get a little newer and updated core files and programs.

Bionicpup32 8.0 may even work OK.

Anything not working?

There are other Puppy versions in Puppy Projects section of this forum.

Best if you can use one of the newer versions of Puppy Linux.


Tahr is still my first suggestion but maybe dpup stretch will work if the original poster wants to go newer. On the flip side if the original poster wants to go older, darry has done a lot of upgrades to a 4.0 series pup:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=116679

if one doesn't want something as old as a 4.0 series pup but something older than the above mentioned pups, there is JRB's precise light.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115843&sid=527f9db0ed885f34dfad094adce21d31

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 15:10    Post subject:  

Many thanks both for your suggestions, I'm very happy using xenial64 on my machine so I'll give xenial32 a go.
UPDATE - I've just tried xenial7.0.6.iso on the DELL machine and its come up with a message - PAE disabled - unable to boot please use a kernel appropriate to your CPU.
Tahrpup-6.0.5 has loaded but won't connect to internet. Investigating.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 17:26    Post subject:  

Hi

look perhaps also for the old slacko 5.3 family (diverse iso's) because they are so tiny (*1 ...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.3/

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.3.1/

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-slacko-5.3.3/ <--

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-slacko/

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-common/

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-common32/

Both are also VERY useful:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/

http://www.smokey01.com/

Remaster it without the old seamonkey (the size can decrease under 100 Mb) with "removing built in packages"and add a browser like IRON as *.pet (in the new main sfs or as mybowser.sfs ouside (can be added in the iso as well as the devx.sfs at the last remasterizing step)!

think about including a flashplayer in /usr/mozilla/plugins/ before remasterising (you will find above *.pet able to work under 2,9 Mb depending of your needs!

(you can also adapt your locales / keyboard; I use gmt+2 with utc (check the comment mark if right!!!) and make your changes in /etc (/etc/X11/xorg.conf , /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc , /etc/clock , /etc/keymap and make the right link for /etc/localtime ! You can also complete your /usr/share/hunspell , your /usr/share/fonts if you need some Korean or Devanagari etc. fonts, and modify your /root/.jwmrc for ex. for a startup command like setxkbmap, same thing as above in etc!!!)

(*1 for other having the same needs but with an old AMD64, the equivalent in 64 bit would be Quirky Wary64 version 6.99, released Feb 2015 but you can't remaster it and in this case, you need a lot of RAM being rarely available on very old machines...

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 18:15    Post subject:  

LeithR wrote:
UPDATE - I've just tried xenial7.0.6.iso on the DELL machine and its come up with a message - PAE disabled - unable to boot please use a kernel appropriate to your CPU.
Tahrpup-6.0.5 has loaded. Going to stop now will get back to this tomorrow.

I see you have a Pentium M processor. These will usually work OK with PAE if you edit your menu.lst file to add "forcepae -- forcepae" to the end of your kernel boot line.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 18:16    Post subject:  

Hi, LeithR.

Try apacheOpenOffice 4.16? It's the latest version.

I've got an sfs available here, which I've been running faultlessly for a couple of years
on xenialPup-7.0 and DPupStretch-7.0.

In spite of the nay-sayers, aOO is still top notch. It does pretty much everything
LibreOffice does, but with a more familiar menu.

~~~

Or maybe it's the sfs? Is the sfs "hooking up" properly? Besides, you don't always need
an sfs. As most people do not know, you can install aOO, LibreOffice, FireFox,
SeaMonkey, the java JRE, and some other very big apps, by themselves, outside of
your Puppy and of your pupsave file, in their own directory on /mnt/home.

Then you create a symlink of the executable in /usr/bin, maybe bring an icon of it on the
desktop, and you're ready to go.

IHTH

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 20:54    Post subject:  

LeithR wrote:
UPDATE - I've just tried xenial7.0.6.iso on the DELL machine and its come up with a message - PAE disabled - unable to boot please use a kernel appropriate to your CPU.

This is the iso you need to try.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 21:28    Post subject:  

6502coder wrote:
LeithR wrote:
UPDATE - I've just tried xenial7.0.6.iso on the DELL machine and its come up with a message - PAE disabled - unable to boot please use a kernel appropriate to your CPU.
Tahrpup-6.0.5 has loaded. Going to stop now will get back to this tomorrow.

I see you have a Pentium M processor. These will usually work OK with PAE if you edit your menu.lst file to add "forcepae -- forcepae" to the end of your kernel boot line.


Yes, that should work. I have an old Pentium M machine and forcepae works on it.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 21:53    Post subject:  

Radky Stretch might be good with a cheat frugal.

If you copy the main >>> .sfs file to the hard drive,
what I call a cheat frugal, Puppy boots off the cd,
looks for the main file,sees the same >> sfs file on the hard drive,
and finishes booting from there.

Like an instant ram increase.

The file must match the names.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 22:41    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
Radky Stretch might be good with a cheat frugal.

If you copy the main >>> .sfs file to the hard drive,
what I call a cheat frugal, Puppy boots off the cd,
looks for the main file,sees the same >> sfs file on the hard drive,
and finishes booting from there.

Like an instant ram increase.

The file must match the names.

Chris.


Jamesbond did a thread on this. It uses pfx=nocopy and requires a hard drive:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115604

because USB 2.0 and earlier is to slow.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2019, 06:17    Post subject:  

Many thanks to all for your input, I have now successfully loaded a copy of xenial7.5 and LO5.3 seems to work well on this. Now to explore the delights of setting up a Brother Printer courtesy of rcrsn54.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2019, 14:08    Post subject:  

my Brother-HL-2035-hl1250.ppd does always work pretty but without Double Side of Paper (I know, some cups + gutenprint combinaisons allow to print double sided out! But the package cups + gutenprint is always different in each Linux version Embarassed Mad !). search for an operable *ppd for your brother and save it in your private depository!!!
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2019, 17:04    Post subject:  

LeithR did continue his story of his mistake in a separate new thread for whatever reason!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1035821#1035821
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