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Wiz57


Joined: 03 Feb 2019
Posts: 59
Location: Chickasha, OK

PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2019, 20:24    Post subject: ScPupLXQt 32  

Hiya peebee, and also norgo!
Just wanted to let you know I have made a second frugal install on my
hard disk drive on this old netbook of Sc Pup 19.04 32 bit...and in this
one I added the ydrv containing LXQt desktop! It works smooth!
Even with only 1 gig total RAM, I'm liking this LXQt combo! I think what
I might try is extract the new iso of ScPup 19.06 into the directory that
contains 19.04, then just rename the ydrv to reflect the "19.06" reference,
and give that I run.

To Barry...you may be correct regarding Slackware Current, but the thing
I've always enjoyed about Slackware is that updates are normally only
released when a lot of testing has been done, making it a very stable OS
(my favorite anyhow). I've been using various small pendrive type
Slackware derivatives for seems like ages, starting with Slax 5 something
or other. Other than an odd lib missing occasionally, haven't had anything
that I couldn't solve, and I am NOT a linux guru by any stretch.
Slax 7 implemented a different package handler that helped with
dependency resolving, maybe I can dig it out for examination.

Finally...this is only my opinion, not worth 2 cents, but I think the combo
of ScPup and LXQt (I call my installation ScPupLXQt, btw) would be a
great way to introduce Windows refugees to Puppy! Especially those
coming from XP and 7!

Thank you again peebee, great work!
Wiz Very Happy
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Wiz57


Joined: 03 Feb 2019
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Location: Chickasha, OK

PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2019, 21:00    Post subject:  

Renaming the ydrv WORKED! i'm here now, in ScPupLXQt 19.06 32 bit!
Palemoon browser updated to 28.5.2, everything updated smoothly!
Woohoo! Laughing

edit to add
ps...say, this PCManFM file manager is pretty slick too! Used it to update
my installation by extracting the iso! SWEET!!! Laughing
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foxpup


Joined: 29 Jul 2016
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Location: europa near northsea

PostPosted: Wed 12 Jun 2019, 05:07    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
A problem with the slackware64-current package repository is that it may undergo fundamental changes at any time, such as version changes of glibc or gcc. So, cannot install packages from it with the PPM.

That is a problem, for various reasons. As ScPup is built from slackware-current repo, there is no guarantee that 14.2 packages will work when installed from the PPM. You are going to be hitting library compatibility problems ...

I should also note, if you compile an app in ScPup and create a PET, there is no guarantee that it will work in a future release of ScPup.

That is, if a future release builds from latest slackware-current, the packages could have changed.

In summary again, Slackware is not suitable for the rolling-release model of distro, due to its lack of dependency management.

The library compatibility problems may be present in Sc itself at any given time also!
I presume they may increase at the start and exstinguish near a new Slackware release.
That's a chance you have to take with Sc.
But since Slackware is well taylored it is not such a big risk, I think.

Slackware and Sc is not rolling release and Puppy should not become RR either, my opinion.

BTW, I am looking forward with anticipation to Slackware 15.
Besides Pupppy & derivatives, it is the only linux I always keep on my machines.
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matheuszig

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jun 2019, 11:10    Post subject: mouse acceleration not change in pupxset mouse settings  

Help, my mouse acceleration and threshold not change after apply settings, always in default, in any distros, includes Scpup64 and others, but in XenialPup64 mouse settings works fine and i no have problems in this distro, anyone help me ?
My PC:
Mouse Razer Abyssus 2000 750 dpi.
Membrane keyboard.

Core2Quad q9300 2.82 ghz
GT 420
4gb ram
Puppy installed in SD card with adapter, my HDD dead.
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matheuszig

Joined: 13 Jun 2019
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2019, 14:35    Post subject: Re: mouse acceleration not change in pupxset mouse settings  

matheuszig wrote:
Help, my mouse acceleration and threshold not change after apply settings, always in default, in any distros, includes Scpup64 and others, but in XenialPup64 mouse settings works fine and i no have problems in this distro, anyone help me ?
My PC:
Mouse Razer Abyssus 2000 750 dpi.
Membrane keyboard.

Core2Quad q9300 2.82 ghz
GT 420
4gb ram
Puppy installed in SD card with adapter, my HDD dead.


I fixed this, ScPup and others distros uses xinput to manage mouse acceleration
to disable mouse acceleration use this command:
xinput --set-prop <device id> 'libinput Accel Profile Enabled' 0, 1
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fishmanluvslinux


Joined: 26 Jun 2015
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jun 2019, 23:55    Post subject: ScPup 32 19.06  

I am going to try this on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 laptop circa 2002.
It has 1 Gb of RAM, Pentium 4-M Cpu @ 1.80 Ghz, 8 Mb of video memory.
I am going to use this machine as a music player and email viewer.
Wish me luck!
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
Posts: 1931
Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed 19 Jun 2019, 05:42    Post subject: truecrypt problem in Scpup 32 bit  

I'm using ScPup 32 bit. I have noticed that truecrypt mounts volumes in /media (not /mnt). It works but when moving a pdf file from an xsane scanning inside an encrypted volume an error occurs: allthough the file is moved and it does not seem corrupted. But why the error? Is truecrypt going to be outdated?
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jun 2019, 08:58    Post subject: Re: truecrypt problem in Scpup 32 bit  

watchdog wrote:
I'm using ScPup 32 bit. I have noticed that truecrypt mounts volumes in /media (not /mnt). It works but when moving a pdf file from an xsane scanning inside an encrypted volume an error occurs: allthough the file is moved and it does not seem corrupted. But why the error? Is truecrypt going to be outdated?


Removing the built-in rox_config-1.0.pet solves for me the problem. What is the utility of that pet? Where is it?
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jun 2019, 23:57    Post subject:  

I have downloaded the zipped woof-CE and made the latest rox_config-1.0.pet. Installed it. Restored puppypin. No more problems using truecrypt. Thanks.
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ETP


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Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon 24 Jun 2019, 11:08    Post subject: Testing ScPup64 19.06 k 5.1.6  

Testing ScPup64 19.06 k 5.1.6

Hi peebee,
Thanks for this release which is performing extremely well. The install is a manual frugal
to a dedicated 10GB f2fs partition on nvme0n1p7. Boot is provided by a syslinux 4.04 vesamenu entry on my
usual boot media - 4GB (fat32) SD card.

Items installed so far are as follows:

    startup_welcome_alert_for_LxPupSc64-mk1|Provides multilingual verbal Startup welcome plus Internet connection alarm
    xdotool-2.20110530.1-x86_64_s700|commandline tool for fake button and key presses
    ListDD-2.1|List dynamic dependencies
    getflash-1.7-1|No description provided
    gtk+3-3.18.9|multi-platform GUI toolkit
    at-spi2-atk-2.32.0|AT-SPI2 bridge to ATK
    at-spi2-core-2.32.1|Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface core
    uextract-3.36|Ultimate Extractor
    UrxvtControl-1.3|Urxvt configuration
    flashplayer-32.0.0.207-x86_64|Adobe Flash Player browser plugin and Preferences
    mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-en-GB-45.2.0|English (Great Britain)
    mozilla-thunderbird-60.7.1|Mozilla Thunderbird mail application
    speechify|Add multilingual speech to system splash screens
    adwaita-icon-theme-3.18.0|default icons used by GTK+
    tree-1.7.0|a program to display a directory tree
    haveged-1.9.2-x86_64-1_slonly-mk1|ensures adequate entropy
    wotd-V1|Sets a different wallpaper for each day of the week.
    PupSnap-2.6_Scrot-0.8_64Bit|PupSnap screen capture (screenshot)


Notes on the above:
1. gtk+3 was installed to accomodate a portable version of firefox 67.0.4 held on another partition
(p6) which is auto-mounted.

2. The custom 64-bit pets for haveged (as used in Arch, Manjaro & Fatdog) and the startup_welcome_alert_for_LxPupSc64-mk1
are available if anyone wants them. The latter uses mplayer rather than mpv and the pet includes the SlackBuild of translate-shell.

Screenshot:

Please press F11 to toggle into full-screen then click on link;---

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1lvolocgoleounCxMMv2pbclJu-KciaJa
.

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festus


Joined: 14 Jan 2015
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Wed 26 Jun 2019, 14:44    Post subject: PPM Free space error
Subject description: scpup 32 bit
 

Hi, peebee and crew

I did a frugal install of "ScPup-19.06+0-uefi-T" 32-bit to my hdd, sda5 ext-3, with pmedia=usbflash and Puppy Event Manager > Save Session > Save Interval = 0 minutes, Ask at shutdown ticked.

With a savefolder established, update PPM database, select a pkg to install I get this popup about Free space error (at bottom of post)

sda5 is 21GB with 11GB free space, so there is free space available

Just to make sure I also did a second pristine frugal install, changed to pmedia=atahd in grub4dos and am getting the same PPM error as with the first install.

I am impressed with scpup32, and am a thanking you, peebee, for your excellent work on these pups.

I seem to remember seeing this PPM issue somewhere here on the forum, but can't find it atm as is.

I'm a thinking it has to do with Puppy Event Manager not PPM itself.

Thank for any and all attention to this matter.

bliss,
festus
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darry19662018

Joined: 31 Mar 2018
Posts: 654
Location: Rakaia

PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2019, 03:43    Post subject:
Subject description: ScPup with series 3 kernel for older Hardware (Tahr 3.14.56PAE)
 

This a full version of ScPup with Kernel 3.14.56PAE with same apps for older hardware as the machine I run it on prefers series 3 kernels.
https://archive.org/details/scpup19.01k3.14.56pae

Finally a respectful thankyou to Peebee for creating a bloody marvelous Slacko.

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Joined: 21 Sep 2008
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Location: Worcestershire, UK

PostPosted: Mon 29 Jul 2019, 14:14    Post subject:  

N.B. these new versions require both initrd.gz and the main puppy.sfs to be updated.

29-july-2019

New versions 19.06+4

See posts 1 & 2 for details

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Wiz57


Joined: 03 Feb 2019
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Location: Chickasha, OK

PostPosted: Mon 29 Jul 2019, 16:01    Post subject:  

Thank you peebee! Downloading now, along with the updated ydrv
for LXQt DE! Will report any problems.
Wiz
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Location: Chickasha, OK

PostPosted: Mon 29 Jul 2019, 18:09    Post subject:  

Updates successful peebee!! Both frugal installations, ScPUP 32 and
ScPUP LXQt...no problems so far, have booted both and ran thru the
basics (connect to Wifi, start Palemoon, check settings on trackpad, etc.)
I'm in ScPUP LXQt right now...I'm really enjoying this Puppy! Great
job as usual...your talents far surpass mine! But I'm learning!
Wiz Very Happy
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