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Re: simple_network_setup possible unexpected behavior

#921 Post by rerwin »

RetroTechGuy wrote:Running Xenial 7.5 64-bit.

I've tried loading and quitting sns a couple times, but my eth0 doesn't automatically connect (in fact, I pull up sns, and it appears that I need to delete the saved configuration, and redo the connection to get it to connect.
I infer that you are running with SNS 2.2.1 installed. Did you also install network_connect_update-20180930?

I will look into this shortly and contact you by PM if I need more information.
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Re: simple_network_setup possible unexpected behavior

#922 Post by RetroTechGuy »

rerwin wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:Running Xenial 7.5 64-bit.

I've tried loading and quitting sns a couple times, but my eth0 doesn't automatically connect (in fact, I pull up sns, and it appears that I need to delete the saved configuration, and redo the connection to get it to connect.
I infer that you are running with SNS 2.2.1 installed. Did you also install network_connect_update-20180930?

I will look into this shortly and contact you by PM if I need more information.
Richard
I have no idea which version it is. On the commandline, "sns -v" or "-V" just launches sns, rather than reporting the version. The help button also doesn't report the version number. Where would I find that? I have not installed "network_connect_update-20180930" -- just located it, and will do an install and reboot (so I can see if it finds the network on its own)

Update: I installed the connect_update, with no apparent effect. It doesn't automagically connect, and requires 2 attempts to connect to achieve an connection. Weird...
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#923 Post by rerwin »

OK. You would know if you installed 2.2.1. Please install it in addition to network_connect_update-20180930 so that we are not trying to diagnose an old version of SNS.

I think we should be discussing this in the "network connect" or xenialpup64 thread, because it does not pertain to bionicpup64.
Thanks.

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#924 Post by RetroTechGuy »

rerwin wrote:OK. You would know if you installed 2.2.1. Please install it in addition to network_connect_update-20180930 so that we are not trying to diagnose an old version of SNS.

I think we should be discussing this in the "network connect" or xenialpup64 thread, because it does not pertain to bionicpup64.
Thanks.
OK, I moved it over to the thread under Xenial 7.5:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 36#1029036
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#925 Post by escucha »

Hi,

After many weeks using normaly Bionicpup64 8.0 CE as main OS went to try to append manually a frugal puppy (tahr, xenial...) using the old method based in a folder containing the files needed to start.

Well in Bionicpup64 8.0 CE is not possible to manage the menu.lst with Geany and only obtain exit to grub prompt on reboot or 'Error2 Bad file or directory'
What am I making wrong?
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RAM usage a tad high?

#926 Post by amn87 »

Hi all. This is the very first Puppy that I could get working in a VM without any issues so happy about it.
But the RAM consumption immediately after boot seems a little high. Lubuntu 19.0.4 was around 480MB whereas Bionicpup64 was a good 100MB or so higher. I have 8GB RAM installed so its only an issue while trying to run multiple Puppy guests under Windows 10. I will try with the 32-bit version but Chrome could be an issue there. Does Xenial Pup or any other recent Pup also work well in a VM and with lower memory consumption? Thanks.

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Re: RAM usage a tad high?

#927 Post by s243a »

amn87 wrote:Hi all. This is the very first Puppy that I could get working in a VM without any issues so happy about it.
But the RAM consumption immediately after boot seems a little high. Lubuntu 19.0.4 was around 480MB whereas Bionicpup64 was a good 100MB or so higher. I have 8GB RAM installed so its only an issue while trying to run multiple Puppy guests under Windows 10. I will try with the 32-bit version but Chrome could be an issue there. Does Xenial Pup or any other recent Pup also work well in a VM and with lower memory consumption? Thanks.
For virtualbox I found the following work well: fatdog64, TazPup and Stretch Dog.

Regarding more official puppyies on a VM, maybe try QEMU or VMware. Alternatively, try removing the part in the /root/.xinitrc script where it hides the mouse when the mouse isn't moving.
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Re: RAM usage a tad high?

#928 Post by mavrothal »

amn87 wrote:Hi all. This is the very first Puppy that I could get working in a VM without any issues so happy about it.
But the RAM consumption immediately after boot seems a little high. Lubuntu 19.0.4 was around 480MB whereas Bionicpup64 was a good 100MB or so higher. I have 8GB RAM installed so its only an issue while trying to run multiple Puppy guests under Windows 10. I will try with the 32-bit version but Chrome could be an issue there. Does Xenial Pup or any other recent Pup also work well in a VM and with lower memory consumption? Thanks.
This is because the entire SFS is copied into RAM.
Try to boot the boot option pfix=nocopy to decrease RAM use.
VM wise, most puppies work fine in VMware and Parellels. VitrualBox is a mixed bag.
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#929 Post by rufwoof »

A common problem with Puppy's in general (including bionicpup) is the on-screen popups/info boxes. When dpi is set to a relatively high number then the text more often just doesn't fit the box size.

A more general alternative that works better IMO is to use notify-send

notify-send -t 5000 -u normal "some message"

that in this example case pops up a 5 second (5000 m/s) message.
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#930 Post by rufwoof »

Immediately after startup (desktop) I load up a set of tui windows (tilda tabs) one of which is iftop and it looks like bionicpup is doing quite a bit of 'calling home' (to ubuntu). I've also seen a connection to google in that set (suspect that might be in-code somewhere i.e. validating that a internet connection is alive).

Why? And can it be disabled?
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#931 Post by mavrothal »

rufwoof wrote:Immediately after startup (desktop) I load up a set of tui windows (tilda tabs) one of which is iftop and it looks like bionicpup is doing quite a bit of 'calling home' (to ubuntu). I've also seen a connection to google in that set (suspect that might be in-code somewhere i.e. validating that a internet connection is alive).

Why? And can it be disabled?
Try disabling
/Startup/PPMupdatedatabase
/Startup/youtube-dl-update
/Startup/getflash_auto
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#932 Post by rufwoof »

That did it - thanks mavrothal
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#933 Post by fishmanluvslinux »

@mavrothal

I am curious as to disabling all of these calling home stuff.

Is it done in a text editor? or in a terminal?

Would I as a novice user have to do this for privacy?

Sorry but I just started using Bionicpup64 8.0 C.E.

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#934 Post by williams2 »

Start rox file manager by clicking the house icon at the top left of the desktop

Click the Startup folder

Right click any file you want to disable, and click Properties.

Uncheck the 3 Exec checkboxes

Some things you don't need to disable, but I don't want youtube-dl updating every time Puppy boots/reboots/restarts X windows. Same with updating the package manager.

You can right click a file to View As Text if you are curious. And also you can edit a file to disable it if you want.

You can drag and move files to the disabled folder. Or even delete them, if you're sure. Sometimes Puppy will reinstall some of these files.

There are configuration programs in the menu too.

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#935 Post by bigpup »

New version of Pburn is released.
Version 4.3.19, 23.Jun 2019
- Allow files larger than 4 GB (thanks to wert)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
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Bionicpup dev.xxx.sfs?

#936 Post by MikeyBrat »

What dev sfs we use for this?

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Aha! Never mind! I found it!
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#937 Post by boolean1 »

if i am not mistaken , there is a line dropped from
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

LINE 565:modprobe $MODULE $MPARAMS

to parse ADDLIST= variable

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#938 Post by 666philb »

boolean1 wrote:if i am not mistaken , there is a line dropped from
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

LINE 565:modprobe $MODULE $MPARAMS

to parse ADDLIST= variable
thanks boolean1

fixed in woofce & in bionicpup updates https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ssues/1490
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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Bionicpup64 8.0 CE - K 4.19.23

#939 Post by ETP »

Hi Phil,

Thanks for the latest update.
I am currently running 2 copies of BionicPup64 8.0, one with the original jwm
and the other with Radky's FbBox 5.0.

A chill out video of the latter can be found here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hpTfsRVFTd2N6WVp7
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crond

#940 Post by boolean1 »

There is a bug in busybox-crond that generate an annoying file /crond.reboot, every time it runs

to replicate just type crond , and watch / directory

BusyBox v1.29.3 (2018-09-25 16:13:15)

EDIT:this is fixed in BusyBox v1.31.0

http://www.01micko.com/wdlkmpx/woof-CE/ ... static.pet

but according to posters in woof git, there are compatibility issues that continue to be discovered

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