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Anybody still use a serial mouse?
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2019, 00:59    Post subject:  Anybody still use a serial mouse?  

Is anybody using puppylinux in a computer with serial mouse?
The very old mechanical ones connected at the 9-pin serial port?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2019, 17:49    Post subject:  

Wow that's old! My two oldest laptops, running Puppy 4.1.2 and Wary 5.1 respectively, have the 9-pin port, but if I still have a serial mouse it's buried somewhere in the garage along with 5-pin AT keyboards and other such relics.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2019, 17:23    Post subject:  

Follow up for possible reason behing original question.

Serial mouse support looks discontinued as of March 14, 2019
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commits/testing
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2019, 20:27    Post subject:  

In the modern world probably no one.
However, in the third world countries, not sure.

I have this one, but no port for it in any of my computers. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2019, 02:16    Post subject:  

I'm pretty sure we have a mouse in the cereal cupboard at home....
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2019, 13:19    Post subject:  

... a cereal killer? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2019, 15:40    Post subject:  

No, coz the port is being used by my 9600 baud modem Smile

Joking aside, I do still use cli a lot though. tmux on local (London) end, ssh to hashbang.sh (New York), ssh from there also into sdf.org etc. mutt, cmus, mc, weechat ...etc. More fun, less ads.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 May 2019, 19:46    Post subject:  

I do, unfortunately, I just found out that serial mouse support has been removed from woofCE. Sad I posted this on GitHub:

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I still have a computer, with which I use a serial mouse. This computer is running dpup stretch.

I likely won't use any newer version of puppy on it but sometimes older versions of puppy are built with the latest woofCE.

With regards to serial mice not lasting long, I'll say that USB ports also don't last that long and this computer has a limited number of USB ports. Also I'm able to buy second hand serial mice from the goodwill. Puppy is ment to support older hardware. I think that this change is a mistake!


https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/1359#issuecomment-492448003

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PostPosted: Tue 14 May 2019, 22:09    Post subject:  

Wow I agree...serial mouse support should remain.......as one of Puppy's primary goals, is to run on old hardware.

maybe switching the kernels can extend using a serial mouse
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ETP


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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2019, 06:32    Post subject:  

I recall that when PCs with USB ports were first introduced into the working environment we only had serial mice as USB mice were very expensive.

The solution was an adapter for each PC which is still readily available.

https://www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/buy-rent/P129705P?cidp=Froogle&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-aSkqOd4gIVz5PtCh1jTgUwEAQYAiABEgK5vvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2019, 07:11    Post subject:  

I am using Usb Mouse ....don`t use wireless one .....want to save Money for Battery .
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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2019, 07:44    Post subject:  

X-Slacko Slim and TazPuppy still supports serial mouse
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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2019, 12:42    Post subject:  

ETP wrote:
I recall that when PCs with USB ports were first introduced into the working environment we only had serial mice as USB mice were very expensive.

The solution was an adapter for each PC which is still readily available.

https://www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/buy-rent/P129705P?cidp=Froogle&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-aSkqOd4gIVz5PtCh1jTgUwEAQYAiABEgK5vvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


No, by the time USB ports were introduced, the standard connector for mice was the PS/2. The adapters shown in your link are all PS/2 - USB converters. Check the link in the original post and you'll see that this thread is about the 9-pin, two-row, "D" shaped connector.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 May 2019, 03:13    Post subject:  

Hi 6502coder,

Thanks for the correction. It is the earlier RS232 connection that is the subject of this thread.
IIRC my very first 486 PC had one of those for the mouse together with a grand total of 4MB of RAM Shocked

Sorry for my error.

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