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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Mar 2016, 20:20    Post subject:  

We have had a bit of criticsm (vandalism? Really? Laughing ) for using javascript.

Well, most of you will be happy to know that we are still using javascript - server side.

If you are a potential contributor then nothing changes. See the first post.

Q. Why is it important that we support small screens?

A. Because small screens are the here now and it is irrelevant that no puppy is actually running on a phone / tablet (which isn't entirely true anyway).

Ask yourself this: Who is the target audience for puppylinux.com?

If you answered "puppy users" you'd be wrong. Barry's old page is still alive so if you are a puppy user and yearn for the "good old days" then visit barryk.org and follow the links.

If not, grab your phone and go to go to puppylinux.com and learn yourself how to revive your computer! ***


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*** A phone is not necessary; also works (generally) in seamonkey-1.1.15, Netsurf-3.3 and IE6.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Mar 2016, 21:35    Post subject:  

Works well in XP / IE6 believe it or not. Our target audience?

Only problem is the nav bar but IE6 is notorious for its crap CSS support, plus it doesn't support svg.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 02:34    Post subject:  

dogle wrote:
For pity's sake, forget about blingifying the site (there is simply just no point), can this new abomination, and please, please restore the original site format which was just fine - and worked!
Can you post a screenshot of what you see please? cheers
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 03:56    Post subject:  

Content is just excellent. Much better than I expected. Great job.

In Firefox on Windows XP, everything works fine. Seems to work okay with javascript turned off too. Not sure what the problem is there.

On the Puppy Team page, second paragraph, 4th sentence:

Quote:
You can choose to just use Puppy Linux team and do nothing else.


Should be:

Quote:
You can choose to just use Puppy Linux and do nothing else.


I think you should give more visibility to the links in the "I need more info before deciding to try …" section. It is really the sitemap to the text content part of the site. Not sure exactly how to do that without messing up the single column organization (which I like and think you should keep). Maybe a horizontal formatted "Site map" footer at the bottom of each page.

edit: Yeah, a regular html text link footer on each page.

First row contains the links in the bar at the top, so people for whom the bar doesn't work can use the site. Second row contains the links in the "I need more info. . . " section. Maybe a third row with links that are in the FAQ (and elsewhere).

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L18L

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 05:45    Post subject: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: Upgrade MSIE5.5-8 to be compatible with modern browsers
 

01micko wrote:
Only problem is the nav bar but IE6 is notorious for its crap CSS support, plus it doesn't support svg.

Simplest solution is conditionally inclusion of Dean Edwards' javascript called IE9.js
Find it here: http://ie7-js.googlecode.com/svn/version/2.1%28beta4%29/

It is just this one line to be inserted (between <head> and </head>):
Code:
<!--[if lt IE 9]><script type="text/javascript" src="IE.js"></script><![endif]-->
This has already been demonstrated, see source of link in http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=889968#889968
<edit>"This means just the inclusion. I don't have neither IE nor smart phone."</edit

https://code.google.com/archive/p/ie7-js/ wrote:
About

IE7.js is a JavaScript library to make Microsoft Internet Explorer behave like a standards-compliant browser.
It fixes many HTML and CSS issues and makes transparent PNG work correctly under IE5 and IE6.
and
Quote:
IE9.js

Upgrade MSIE5.5-8 to be compatible with modern browsers.


Yes I know, it is working only with javascript enabled.
IE users tend to not disable javascript
This IE*.js has always been good for me and it will be good for puppylunux.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 05:48    Post subject: Re: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: IE
 

Embarassed

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d4rkn1ght


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 13:25    Post subject:    

Looking good here! Cool
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gyro

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 15:36    Post subject:  

Looks good in Firefox on my andriod tablet, in both landscape and portrait.
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dogle

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 16:58    Post subject:  

Wow, I can no longer meet greengeek's request for a screenshot of my blank page - 'cos, to my joy, 01micko & mavrothal have fixed the glitch already!

Congratulations and many thanks, guys, for that (and for so much else you do).

Now, I'm really, really interested to know what you did (and was there any downside in relation to your ultimate aim to make puppylinux.com look pretty on all sorts of displays?).

(In case others are interested, my faithful old dog-standard duty rig on which I experienced the problem is quite unremarkable - FWIW, 4.3.1 multisession with original SM 1.1.18, plus NoScript 1.10, Adblock v.5 d3 and scottman's puppy-advert-blocker, no firewall, running on a coal-fired 800MHz Duron box with reasonably sprightly cellular data connection).

Now that I can admire the page, without firing-up more modern boxen with more recent Pups, perhaps I could offer a positive suggestion? - - even on a big screen, the text contrast seems a tad suboptimal to me (as in, strong grey on weak grey background) - might it not be an advantage, especially for those visiting with smallscreen devices/low batteries, to have just plain ol' black-on-white for the text content?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 20:03    Post subject:  

dogle it is black on white here in seamonkey and on my Samsung Galaxy S4 phone. Display's great on both.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2016, 20:25    Post subject:  

Given that seamonkey-1.1.18 runs on gecko-1.8.1 (from 2006 Surprised ) it doesn't do a bad job. The only problem of note is the navigation bar which might be improved if I try and get it more css2 compliant.

Colours look fine to me, might be a setting?
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2019, 04:36    Post subject: website discussion  

Getting this topic up - Micko has suggested that this be "stickied" instead of the "Puppy Linux Home Page" topic.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2019, 07:04    Post subject:  

You can change>
Ease of use → grandpa-friendly certified
to
Ease of use → Great-grandpa-friendly certified
as of 2am friday AEST Smile)
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