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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 10:40 Post subject:
Precise-light - 17March2019 - for older hardware Subject description: Updated minimal version of Precise-5.7.1 |
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New Improved Version WoofCE-testing-17March2019: Older versions moved to post 3.
4th Update:
precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.0.iso___precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.4.iso.delta
32Mb - md5sum 76beaa3ac825311d4014fbb658c463e3
ISO size 116 Mb
See here for a list of fixes and instructions on how to use the .delta.
Base Version for .deltas
precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.0.iso
md5sum=06583fd75527dc24bf47b997b160e517
ISO size 110 Mb
The latest (4th) update gets the latest Firefox and some of the latest chromium based browsers working.
This new version is build with a later WoofCE containing numerous improvements. It also has some updated software and some oversights corrected. I also learned a bit more about building Puppies so all files are now listed in /var/packages/builtin_files and all packages are listed in /var/packages/woof-installed-packages. Unfortunately the new Woof places the /packages folder in /var as opposed to the old system of placing it in /root. This will create a problem with your old savefiles. Not insurmountable but easier to create a new one I think.
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Recently I found an Acer Aspire One ZG5 in our local recycle. Took it home, reinstalled XP, ordered a new battery and it was as good as new. Installed upupbb32 and it bogged right down, 1GB memory just wasn't enough. So I tried various older puppies and Precise and Tahr worked quite well although quite outdated.
I also want to take this opportunity to recommend my very simple to use Portable Browser Installer which works very nicely with Precise-light. Or you may wish to use Palemoon-27.9.4SSE portable installer if you have a very old SSE computer.
Thanks to perdido, musher0, mavrothal, sheldonisaac, Volhout, mikeslr, peebee, 666philb, nic007, sindi, proebler, sheldonisaac and rcrsn51 for input and testing. Thanks to futwerk for the great desktops.
Hopefully this will be of some use on your older hardware. Good Luck, J
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 10:50 Post subject:
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Portable Browser Installer now builtin (3rd update). Will install and setup portable versions of:Firefox ESR
Firefox Quantum
Vivaldi
Iron
Seamonkey
Palemoon
Thunderbird OscarTalks dillo-3.0.5-precise.pet. is a very small browser which will access many (not all) websites.
Calibre ebook viewer and converter works well and can be setup as a portable install. I've only been able to get the 3.XX series to work.
FreeOffice works quite well and can be setup as a portable install. (You have to give them an email address to receive registration key)
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 11:09 Post subject:
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Both versions come with Linux Kernel: 3.14.56PAE because that's the kernel I've had the best luck with on all my old and new hardware from P4 to i5.
Comes with Gtk+3 so will run some modern apps. See browsers above.
Apps are fairly complete with some substitutions:
Rtfed instead of Abiword.
No spreadsheet
playmusic using ffplay as the media player
Peasywifi is the default connect. No frisbee
Evince instead of Epdfview
See here to get peasyscan working.
I use FreeOffice installed on my hard-drive for word processing and spreadsheet. It works very well in Precise.
Old Version 5.7.1 WoofCE 9Sep2017
Precise-light-5.7.1+0 comes with no browser but ones that work are listed below. The ISO comes in at 112MB
md5sum=5b674c362519dea9016dfe0d4c0bc55b
The first update, precise-light-5.7.1+0.iso___precise-light-5.7.1+1.iso.delta is available. See here for a list of changes in the update and also instructions on how to use it.
md5sum of .delta file = 48b8acb6b37af2955aae46a0f6c91b8e
md5sum of new .iso = f68a98bf29e55666418c0a2b9aa25f58
The second update, precise-light-5.7.1+0.iso___precise-light-5.7.1+2.iso.delta is available. See here for a list of changes in the update and also instructions on how to use it.
md5sum of .delta file = 4db8e238cc461c81bd98dfbdf9e4b5f4
md5sum of new .iso = 3ac4f703ea1318c9d2d5d0d00b67d634
The third update, precise-light-5.7.1+0.iso___precise-light-5.7.1+3.iso.delta is available. See here for a list of changes in the update and also instructions on how to use it.
md5sum of .delta file = 915ebace4656793e4f3e73f024fe8efd
md5sum of new .iso = 20769337e5b1c454e915aea2e1ea10bd
ISO comes in at 107MB
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ally

Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 1983 Location: lincoln, uk
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 11:26 Post subject:
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mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Precise
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 11:32 Post subject:
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WOW! Are your ever quick. Thanks ally
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 3108
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 13:04 Post subject:
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Nice!
Do not remember if this was also true for Precise original but on first shutdown will not save on ext4 partitions.
This is because guess_fstype reports ext4 as ext3 resulting in failure when trying to "mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxN" to generate the savefile.
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nic007

Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 3444 Location: Cradle of Humankind
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 14:18 Post subject:
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Just a mention: I used the original Precise 571 last week, stripped out only two components, ie. libLLVM and the old browser and made a new sfs at maximum xz compression. The new base sfs is 107MB. I did the same with Tahr Puppy. Both are using Seamonkey 2.48 (I just downloaded the tarball from the Seamonkey site ande made an sfs-addon).
Edit: I've noticed jrb used a newer kernel ie. the same one Tahr 605 has which is rock solid so I have swopped kernels too. My base sfs is now 111MB (which includes the zdrv) and still have the same applications as the standard Precise 571 release. Not bad.
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:08 Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote: | Nice!
Do not remember if this was also true for Precise original but on first shutdown will not save on ext4 partitions.
This is because guess_fstype reports ext4 as ext3 resulting in failure when trying to "mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxN" to generate the savefile. |
Thanks for trying it. I've had problems in the past with input/output errors with ext4 so all my drives are ext3. If you can suggest a fix I'll be happy to incorporate it.
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:11 Post subject:
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nic007 wrote: | Just a mention: I used the original Precise 571 last week, stripped out only two components, ie. libLLVM and the old browser and made a new sfs at maximum xz compression. The new base sfs is 107MB. I did the same with Tahr Puppy. Both are using Seamonkey 2.48 (I just downloaded the tarball from the Seamonkey site ande made an sfs-addon). |
You had my hopes up for a bit, but I just tried Seamonkey 2.49.1 and it wanted GTK3. Still Seamonkey 2.48 is fairly current. I'll make a note of it in the intro. Thanks
Edit: I just tried 2.48 and it does indeed work.
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perdido

Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 1601 Location: ¿Altair IV , Just north of Eeyore Junction.?
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:20 Post subject:
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jrb wrote: | nic007 wrote: | Just a mention: I used the original Precise 571 last week, stripped out only two components, ie. libLLVM and the old browser and made a new sfs at maximum xz compression. The new base sfs is 107MB. I did the same with Tahr Puppy. Both are using Seamonkey 2.48 (I just downloaded the tarball from the Seamonkey site ande made an sfs-addon). |
You had my hopes up for a bit, but I just tried Seamonkey 2.49.1 and it wanted GTK3. Still Seamonkey 2.48 is fairly current. I'll make a note of it in the intro. Thanks |
I installed gtk3 in Barry's 5.7.1 and it works fine, might be ok for yours too.
Built the pet from deb packages from ubuntu 12.04, it does not seem to be kernel specific.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=907410#907410
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 1539 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:27 Post subject:
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Thanks for that perdido. I'll add the link to your .pet here:
http://www.ibm-pc.org/puppy/libgtk-3-0_3.4.2_i386_precise.pet
Edit: Hey, I just installed perdido's .pet and seamonkey 2.49.1 starts right up without complaint. Excellent, who knows what else will work?
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nic007

Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 3444 Location: Cradle of Humankind
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:36 Post subject:
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Yes, Seamonkey 2.48 was the last GTK2 version but quite new anyway. Thanks for GTK3 though, good to have for new browser releases in future.
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nic007

Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 3444 Location: Cradle of Humankind
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 15:40 Post subject:
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There's a nice Precise VLC2.16 download from OscarTalks mentioned in one of my recent posts, works well. A later version may work with GTK3?
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 16:05 Post subject:
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ext4 support in Precise is probably not in it or not complete.
Precise development was about the time ext4 support was getting into Puppy.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 3108
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Posted: Sat 06 Apr 2019, 16:45 Post subject:
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jrb wrote: | mavrothal wrote: | Nice!
Do not remember if this was also true for Precise original but on first shutdown will not save on ext4 partitions.
This is because guess_fstype reports ext4 as ext3 resulting in failure when trying to "mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxN" to generate the savefile. |
Thanks for trying it. I've had problems in the past with input/output errors with ext4 so all my drives are ext3. If you can suggest a fix I'll be happy to incorporate it. |
Just replace it with the one from more recent puppies
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