Dpup Stretch 7.5 CE (RC-5)

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tallboy · #521 Post by **tallboy** » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 18:08

I used dpups for many years, and inspired by jamesbond's test of Dpup Stretch-7.5 in low RAM hardware http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=115604, I burned the .iso to a CD for a test on an old P4 box. So far, very nice!

belham2 · #522 Post by **belham2** » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 19:38

darry19662018 wrote:For older hardware http://smokey01.com/radky/Woof/stretch- ... 4.1.48.iso

More recent hardware: http://smokey01.com/radky/Woof/stretch- ... .9.149.iso

Hi Darry,

Can I ask what you managed to fit in your stripped down version? Mainly, did you get a 'modern' browser in there?

I've got a Slacko 5.7* completely updated where it's running the latest Palemoon and I am at 235MB total using frugal & grub4dos. In fact, it's loaded on a 250MB USB stick, and where one boot entry is pfix=ram and the other is the same except pfix is changed to pfix=fsck (to make small changes I want to make in the overall ISO).

But if you got a modern browser in your Dpup-Stretch at only 230MB, I'll definitely switch to that as radky's dpup-stretch I use on the 32-bit computers I still have around the house, and I really like Radky's creation as it is polished as heck.

Thanks.

darry19662018 · #523 Post by **darry19662018** » Thu 28 Mar 2019, 05:16

My Barebones stripped down version has no browser the original iso was 341meg I got it down to 230meg really stripped down no multimedia player,
a lot of apps stripped out - mainly with Wanderer in mind as he wanted a stripped down pup to build his system with sfs's.

It is the most stripped down pup I have ever done a bit like Hondasid's Lucid 500 barebones.

iso
https://archive.org/download/stretch7.5 ... boneII.iso

darry19662018 · #524 Post by **darry19662018** » Thu 28 Mar 2019, 06:25

If those using this skeleton of an iso findfreememapplet missing message annoying then place the following in /usr/bin - remove the .gz

tallboy · #525 Post by **tallboy** » Thu 28 Mar 2019, 19:02

The Network menu item PcurlFtp is not available, I cannot find it from the terminal window either. There is a pcurlftp_file_sharing-0.2-1 in the ppm, from the puppy-noarch-official repo, is that the same version that should have been installed?

The Dpup also fails to find the built-in camera in my Dell Latitude E6230 laptop. It has stretch-7.5-uefi-k4.9.149 installed by Lick as multi boot along Windows 10 and 2 other Puppys.

radky · #526 Post by **radky** » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 03:09

tallboy wrote:The Network menu item PcurlFtp is not available,

The Dpup also fails to find the built-in camera in my Dell Latitude E6230 laptop.

Hi tallboy,

Thanks for reporting the missing PcurlFtp installation.

If I understand correctly, PcurlFtp requires Curlftpfs, Mpscan, Pure-ftpd, and Rox.

I can add PcurlFtp to the next release of stretch 7.5.

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Concerning the webcam in your Dell E6230, are you saying it is not defined in the lsusb report of PupSysInfo?

For example, PupSysInfo shows my webcam as follows:

(PSI -> Devices -> USB Devices -> Complete)

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Bus 001 Device 003: 
 ID = 0402:9665 ALi Corp. Gateway Webcam
 USB Version = 2.00
 Manufacturer = XPA5J1FH8
 Product = 1.3M WebCam
 Max Current = 500mA

If you prefer a complete usb report, go to a terminal and enter lsusb -v

tallboy · #527 Post by **tallboy** » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 06:30

PcurlFtp already has an entry in the Network menu.

From pupsysinfo and PupCamera digital camera access in the Graphic menu. The camera works in Windows 10.

radky · #528 Post by **radky** » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 18:03

@tallboy,

To access the static content (images) acquired by a portable digital camera/phone/tablet, the following apps may be helpful:

1 - Menu -> Graphic -> PupCamera digital camera access
2 - Menu -> Graphic -> Gtkam camera manager
3 - Menu -> Filesystem -> Connect your android phone (MTP Device)
4 - Alternatively, you could install CamPhoneTab - USB interface for cameras/phones/tablets
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=102321

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On the other hand, to acquire and manage images/videos via the built-in webcam of your Dell Latitude E6230 laptop, you could install the uvc-compliant Guvcview which is available in the Puppy Package Manager.

darry19662018 · #529 Post by **darry19662018** » Sun 31 Mar 2019, 07:27

I am running FF ESR 60.6.1 on this Pup and had to install Mike Walsh's
glib-2.0_schemas.pet

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 23#1013223

tallboy · #530 Post by **tallboy** » Sun 31 Mar 2019, 16:04

Thank you, guys. Guvcview did the job - eeh, well, sort of...

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: 16:53 ~ ; guvcview 
GUVCVIEW: version 2.0.4
GUVCVIEW: couldn't open /root/.config/guvcview2/video0 for read: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
V4L2_CORE: (UVCIOC_CTRL_MAP) Error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
ALSA lib pcm_equal.c:196:(_snd_pcm_equal_open) No slave configuration for equal pcm
ALSA lib pcm_equal.c:196:(_snd_pcm_equal_open) No slave configuration for equal pcm
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
GUVCVIEW: (status) saving image to /root/my_photo-1.jpg
GUVCVIEW: (status) saving video to /root/my_video-1.mkv
ENCODER: add stream 0 to stream list
ENCODER: add stream 1 to stream list
ENCODER: (matroska) add seekhead entry 0 (max 10)
ENCODER: (matroska) add seekhead entry 1 (max 10)
AUDIO: (portaudio) Aborting audio stream
AUDIO: Closing audio stream...
ENCODER: (matroska) closing context
ENCODER: (matroska) closing cluster
ENCODER: (matroska)writing cues
ENCODER: (matroska)add seekhead
ENCODER: (matroska) add seekhead entry 2 (max 10)
ENCODER: (matroska)write seekhead
ENCODER: (matroska) end duration = 25727 (25727.000000)

tallboy · #531 Post by **tallboy** » Wed 03 Apr 2019, 03:36

I updated the PaleMoon 28.2.2 to the latest 28.4.1, and it crashed on opening a log-in window. (reported in palemoon forum). I copied the 28.2.2 in the non-save-file version presented by Lick, saved it to /opt/, and everything works again.

tallboy · #532 Post by **tallboy** » Thu 04 Apr 2019, 14:55

My search for a modern Puppy which run from, and save to, a live multisession CD-R, is over; I found it right here!

See Here is a modern Puppy running from a live multisession CD-R

6502coder · #533 Post by **6502coder** » Thu 04 Apr 2019, 21:04

tallboy wrote:I updated the PaleMoon 28.2.2 to the latest 28.4.1, and it crashed on opening a log-in window. (reported in palemoon forum).

I haven't encountered any problems of that type with 28.4.1 so far. I'm running the 4.1.48 kernel version of RC4.

tallboy · #534 Post by **tallboy** » Thu 04 Apr 2019, 23:37

Well, it seems that I actually stumbled onto a real bug!

Go to https://www.telia.no, and click the login button.

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=21779

tallboy · #535 Post by **tallboy** » Fri 05 Apr 2019, 00:10

The Dpup is installed using Lick in Windows 10. After I discovered that the upgraded Palemoon chrashed, I deleted it from /opt/, and also the prefs directory /root/.moonchild productions/, and the /root/.cache/moonchild productions/ dir. I then copied the PM 28.2.2 from the non-save-file version of Dpup, from the Lick boot menu, and pasted it to /opt/.
But, since the Dpup .sfs'es are stored read-only, it means that the original Palemoon 28.2.2 is still in there somewhere. Can the original 28.2.2 be revived, or do I have to continue to use the one I installed? (and which I believe is saved to the save-file?) Maybe a nooby question, but I am not familiar with frugal installs.

radky · #536 Post by **radky** » Sun 07 Apr 2019, 18:33

tallboy wrote:Can the original (palemoon) 28.2.2 be revived, or do I have to continue to use the one I installed? ... I am not familiar with frugal installs.

Hi tallboy,

For frugal installations of Dpup Stretch, the original Palemoon folder is here:

/initrd/pup_ro2/opt/palemoon

tallboy · #537 Post by **tallboy** » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 00:53

Thank you. Can I just copy it to /opt? Or make a symlink?

I have another nooby question: I have compiled the latest ImageMagick-7 in Dpup Stretch-7.5, and ran it's test program without fail. A fantastic program! But the final step, installation, spread it's files all over the place.
Are you familiar with a good recipe somewhere in the forum, on how to make an .sfs and/or a .pet from a program I compile myself? I would like to publish them for download here.
EDIT: I found it in the Wikka!

But it is quite old info...

upnorth · #538 Post by **upnorth** » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 19:10

dir2sfs, dir2pet, and new2dir are still present. I havn't used them in years, but they are worth a try. If it fails, you can use:
make DESTDIR=/somedirectory install
then mksquashfs <options> /somedirectory

tallboy · #539 Post by **tallboy** » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 19:15

Thank you, upnorth!

Mike Walsh · #540 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 17:19

Evening, radky/everybody.

Now, then. I'm a-thinking about giving this a look-see. Coupla questions.....

Are the DPups stuck with using .deb packages only, or can they also use .pets/SFSs/run 'portables', etc?

Following a response from Foxpup, do they make use of the Debian repos.....even though, apparently, 'sudo apt-get install' isn't needed? Do they use something similar to the PPM?

Would my 'portable'-Mozilla browsers (based on Fred's Quantum-portable) run in this? (Can't think of any reason why they shouldn't, but it'd be nice to have confirmation, like..!)

And, most important of all.....does it run as root, or as a 'user' only?

Mike.

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