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bigpup


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2019, 01:40    Post subject:  

This search web site works for me to find things.
Just make sure to select puppy forum from the drop down Web Source listing.
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2019, 08:33    Post subject:  

Ether wrote:
6502coder wrote:
Have you applied XenialPup updates?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1003766#1003766


That worked. Thank you.

This thread -- Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 -- has 779 posts.

I could not find a list anywhere in this thread of the known issues and fixes for the "xenialpup-7.5-uefi.iso 2019-Feb-24 11:51:38 324.7M" download,

and I could not figure out how to search all 779 posts in this thread to find a solution to the specific problem I was seeking help for.

Is there a way for a newcomer like me to "help myself" answer my questions? I'd hate to wear out my welcome by constantly posting questions that have already been answered because I can't search the thread for answers that are already posted.

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hi Ether,

quickpet >> puppy search engine might give better results when looking for answers.
quickpet >> help>>installed bugfixes lists all fixes so far

but just post in this thread if you need help with xenialpup or in the beginners/users section for general questions

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Ether

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2019, 11:58    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
This search web site works for me to find things.
Just make sure to select puppy forum from the drop down Web Source listing.
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html


Thanks.

Although it's not what I was looking for (search all the posts in specific thread), I bookmarked it for possible future use.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2019, 22:47    Post subject:  

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Hello.

Can someone please tell me the meaning of the attached error message?

Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 with latest updates
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2019, 11:01    Post subject:  

Ether wrote:
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Hello.

Can someone please tell me the meaning of the attached error message?

Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017 with latest updates


hi Ether,

it's an error relating to pmcputemp a small tray app that shows cpu temperature. unfortunately it doesn't work on every computer and doesn't work in a virtual machine, so i've removed it in my later pups.

to stop the error move /root/Startup/pmcputemp1 to /root/Startup/disabled ... or simply delete it

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2019, 00:50    Post subject:  

Ether wrote:
...I could not figure out how to search all 779 posts in this thread to find a solution to the specific problem I was seeking help for.

Here's a simple trick I use:

Go to the first page in the thread you are interested in. Look where your browser shows the URL of that page, and note that the address contains "t=<some number>". This is the thread number. For this thread it is 106479.

Now go to your search engine and just include "t=..." in your search, for example:

murga "t=106479" palemoon

In Google the first entry that comes up for me is a link to the first page of this thread. Then at the bottom of that Google entry, I click on "More results from murga-linux.com" and that brings up all the other hits on "palemoon" within this thread.

It's not perfect because the search will also hit on some places in other threads that have cross-linked into this thread, but it's still pretty useful.

There's an additional trick: if you're looking for posts by a specific forum member, make a note of their "joined date" and add that to the search criteria. (This works better than using their member name because it only hits on posts BY that member, not posts where that member was merely MENTIONED by somebody else.)
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2019, 11:03    Post subject:  

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=1021996&mode=topicreview

Works great. Definitely gonna bookmark your post. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 20:22    Post subject: how to install binaries from ubuntu repos  

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Hi.

It was my understanding that the more recent puppy distros are supposed to be binary compatible with the Ubuntu repos.

Can someone explain, or provide a link to an explanation, how to download and install binaries for the mathematical package Maxima in Xenialpup CE 7.5 ?

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 21:54    Post subject: Re: how to install binaries from ubuntu repos  

Ether wrote:
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Can someone explain, or provide a link to an explanation, how to download and install binaries for the mathematical package Maxima in Xenialpup CE 7.5 ?


Hi Ether,

Here's how I would do it, no guarantees. Or, skip everything after Step 1, go directly to step 9 and hope for the best.

1. Open Menu>Setup>Puppy Package Manager. Click Configure (Top-Left, 3rd Icon from Left) then update. After updating, select Options and select into what folder you want packages to be downloaded. You DON'T want them to download into /root. Also place checks in "Always redownload packages..." and "Do not delete downloaded packages". After PPM finishes your configuration, type xdotool in the Search box and select Auto Install, then Do it on the Top-Right. You'll need xdotool for the next step.

2. Download and install PaDS 1.1.4 from here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=998922#998922. Read the short thread. This is only a summary: PaDS can combine various packages (such as debs) to create an Application.SFS if all such packages are in the same folder by Right-Clicking the folder and selecting Combine-to-SFS. Such SFS will have the name of the source folder and will be created in /root. It can also create either pets or SFSes by opening PaDS from the Utility Submenu and selecting source packages from wherever they are located. When opened from the Menu, PaDS can select all source packages in a folder by selecting one and then pressing Ctlr-a (IIRC, I never use PaDS that way for the reasons explained below). You can also choose the name of the application and the location where it will be created.

3. Open your Web-browser to https://packages.ubuntu.com/. Type Maxima as your Keyword and select "Xenial" as the Distribution "Any" as the section. Click the Search Button. In the Window which opens, select the link to the Package Maxima. You may want to bookmark the webpage which opens as it shows links to all packages required or recommended by Xenial Xerus to run Maxima. Xenialpup is binary compatible, but not identical, to Xenial Xerus. About which, more latter. Hopefully, knowing what Ubuntu thinks are dependencies will help you later if Puppy Package Manager misses something.

4. Re-open PPM, type Maxima into the Search Box, Click "Maxima_5.37.2-8"; then press the Down-Arrow next to the words "Auto Install" and select "Download All packages and dependencies".

4a. Examine the downloaded packages. If any of them are python, you'll have to use PaDS to built a Pet. SFSes have lower priority than applications builtin or installed: Puppy's will attempt to use builtin or install python packages rather than those in an SFS and fail.

5. Use PaDS to combinto have the pet or SFS e all the downloaded debs to create a Maxima-5.37.SFS. [The absence of the "2" is intentional"]. If it was created in /root, move it elsewhere first or when SFS-loading it. Sfs-load it. [SFS remaining in /root when unloaded are deleted].

6. Find it's executable. Browse to it, Right-Click and select ListDD from the Popup Menu. [PPM doesn't perfectly duplicate Ubuntu's dependency checking; and Ubuntu assumes an infrastructure of libraries not all of which may be present in Puppies. So Puppies may require some libraries which Ubuntu doesn't mention and PPM won't know about]. On the bottom of List Dynamic Dependencies' GUI click the "Missing" Tab. If there are any binaries missing, see if PPM can provide them and rebuild the SFS. If it can't provide them, look for them using Ubuntu's Package Search. If all else fails, see if pkgs.org has them for Xenial xerus, if not, for debian Jessie (against which Xenial xerus was built) and if not for other versions of Ubuntu or debian, and if not for those for any distribution. Note, the further you get away from Xenial, the more likely you will need to create a symbolic link to the binary you find having the name maxima seeks; and the less likely you are to actually end up with a functional application.

[6a. If List Dynamic Libraries reports that the executable is not a binary, search for the binary. Even with no missing libraries, it's good practice to start the application via the command line to see if there are any other problems. And if python is involved LDD can't tell you about any problems. You can only serially add missing python modules, then start via terminal again].

7. Once you have a functional package, it may still not appear on your menu. Browse to /usr/share/applications "Package Name.desktop", open it in a text editor and compare its "Category=" argument with other .desktops appearing in the category you want. Ubuntu sometimes specifies categories such as "Application", "gtk" and Puppies never read beyond the first two. Also, look at the "Icon=" argument. Puppies usually require an ending such as png or svg. As these often have to be changed requiring Step 8, it's just easier to use the "Combine-to-SFS" Right-Clicked folder method.

8. What I generally do once I've sorted step 7 out is* (a) Unload the SFS, (b) Left-Click/mount it, (c) Show Hidden Files; (d) create a blank folder with the name I want such as Maxima-5.37.2; (e) copy all files from the mounted SFS Window into the Maxima-5.37.2 folder, then open a terminal in that folder's parent and, either
dir2pet Maxima-5.37.2 if I always want the application or it involves python and I have no choice; or
dir2sfs Maxima-5.37.2 if not.

* If you've created a pet, uninstall it, and UExtract it to make necessary changes.

9. Just type Maxima in PPM's Search box and click Auto Install. The problem with this method is that installing overwrites files, and uninstalling even a non-functioning application doesn't re-install the over-written files. Suggest backing up SaveFile/Folder before proceeding.
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