Pizzapup 3.0 FINAL

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steings · #41 Post by **steings** » Mon 05 Mar 2007, 14:17

I don't know who to address this to but I love this Distro. Great job.

Steings

#42 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Mon 05 Mar 2007, 20:16

@Scoticus: http://puptrix.org/isos/Puppylinux-official/2.12/
Thanks. Knowing whether a bug is something I induced or if it was already there helps determine what might cause it.

@steings: That would be me, thanks.

Couldn't have done it without everyone else though. Thus my feeble attempt at a "credits" section in my first post.

Scoticus · #43 Post by **Scoticus** » Mon 05 Mar 2007, 22:28

Pizzasgood

Used your link and downloaded 2.12 and like your 3.0 final once again only got as far as the keyboard choices only to replicate the problem.

I totally gave up on Muppy 007 so I do not have it to go back on but the problem there was nearly identical. I was presented with a Yes / No question and it was there that it froze.

Are you and Mark working of the same basics ? Barry's 2.13 and 2.14 will load right through and I can choose keyboards, screen sizes etc and other than my mouse not totally performing like it usually did on windows it worked ok.

I suspect that the problem you both have is related to my Logitech keyboard and mouse. I quite a while ago totally gave up on Puppy because I could not load it just like I have detailed.

Barry seems to have mastered what ever locked me out before. The question seems to be what is Barry doing that you and Mark are not ?

Sorry to put you to more work but with all the praise being heaped upon you for the Pup I would love to see what it is all about.

Hope this gives you something to work with

Ian

#44 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Tue 06 Mar 2007, 01:14

It may be a driver issue. Try using the zdrv_xxx.sfs from 2.13 or 2.14. Renaming it to zdrv_300.sfs will let it work with Pizzapup, renaming it to zdrv_212.sfs will let it work with 2.12.

Maybe you can just put the renamed zdrv_xxx.sfs file on the harddrive, but you might need to put it in the iso itself. If so, use isomaster. If it isn't in the start menu, just open a terminal window and run it. Use it to open the Pizzapup iso and remove zdrv_300.sfs. Then use it to add the "new" zdrv_300.sfs file. Hit "save-as" to generate a new iso file. Burn that and see if it boots.

Otherwise I'll have to compare the startup scripts from 2.12 and 2.13 to see if there's some bug. But it sounds more like a driver problem to me.

Scoticus · #45 Post by **Scoticus** » Tue 06 Mar 2007, 19:18

Many thanks Pizzasgood

Now you have set that cat among the pigeons.

I have managed to reach the exalted height of being able to change clock settings by using the consol when provided with an idiots guide. If you can similarly guide me I will advise the outcome.

Thinking about what works and what does not WhoDo's 2.15 CE again will let me in so I wonder if it is a driver problem. As I posted earlier on another post Logitech do not support Linux but somehow or other the community have managed to work with their equipment..

If you want me to follow your request I will be more than happy to work with you on this but please be assured that as I am totally new to this I will have to be led by the hand.

I will leave this totally up to you and ask that whether you want to direct me how to make the changes or just to ignore things that you please state your preferred option

Trust this clarifies matters

Ian

#46 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Tue 06 Mar 2007, 20:17

I did a little research and confirmed that 2.13 added better support for USB keyboard detection (and more keyboard stuff in general). I think it might be more than a simple driver change.

This made me more anxious to get started on the next version, so last night I started prepping to convert Pizzapup to the 2.14 base. I was originally just going to replace the packages Barry changed, but he did so much when doing XDG and PETget that it will be simpler to apply Pizzapup to a new base instead. So-far I have a standard 2.14 that thinks it's Pizzapup 3.0 (that means I've changed the version number and implemented the pza_ prefix, and this time I used a variable so I could change the prefix if I felt like it).

My next goal is to add all the stuff from Pizzapup 3.0 into it. From there I can start doing new things.

However, I might upload an "alpha" when I get the main stuff added, before I make changes. In essence, it would just be Pizzapup 3.0 with the guts from Puppy 2.14 (PETget, official XDG implementation, and better startup scripts). So actually, it would be like Pizzapup 3.0.1 (and that's what the guts will see the version number as).

This would let people make sure I didn't break something, along with providing a solution to keyboard problems and access to PETget. Otherwise it would be at least several weeks before I uploaded a "real" alpha of 3.1, with changes and stuff.

So how's that sound? I should have it done by St. Patrick's day at the latest.

It will also include any small tweaks I've made since releasing 3.0. Not many though.

Scoticus · #47 Post by **Scoticus** » Tue 06 Mar 2007, 20:58

I hope that this is not all down to me all the extra work you are doing.

If I can assist by checking how the changes respond to the changes just PM me and I will get on the job..

Hope everything works to plan and it is not too much work.

Ian

#48 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Tue 06 Mar 2007, 21:12

If I said I'd have 3.1 done by St. Patrick's day, that would be too much. Just getting 3.0 upgraded to the 2.14 base isn't too bad. The only reason it might take even that long is that I have two exams between now and then (not bad considering I had two just last night).

I'm also making allowances for some other smaller things I'm working on in the mean time.

And it isn't extra work, because I was going to do it anyway. The only thing I wasn't planning to do before was upload a 3.0.1 version. But actually making one is a required step toward 3.1.

iscraigh · #49 Post by **iscraigh** » Fri 09 Mar 2007, 06:17

Tried it out, that's what I have been looking for, firefox-gaim that works with msn, and mplayer. All under 100 mb. Can't believe I haven't tried previous versions. Does it contain the lates remaster script that supports ntfs? If not it would be a good addition.

great work.

Craig

#50 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Fri 09 Mar 2007, 08:09

If it was in 2.12, yes. Otherwise, is it in 2.14? If not I'll add it to Pizzapup 3.0.1.

I can't guarantee it works with Pizzapup though, as I changed the pup_xxx.sfs file to pza_xxx.sfs. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll fix it.

Thanks.

Basu · #51 Post by **Basu** » Fri 09 Mar 2007, 14:22

Has anyone used this as a multisession CD? It says that it has flash 7. Can I upgrade to Flash 9?
Thanks,
Basu

#52 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Fri 09 Mar 2007, 18:23

I don't know of anyone using it as multisession. I've never used multisession on any Puppy myself. Why not try it and let us know

I'll make a mental note to test the next version that way, though. I never thought about it before.

As for flash, yes, you can upgrade it. You might want to check the thread about fixing it so flash 9 doesn't crash though.

iscraigh · #53 Post by **iscraigh** » Sat 10 Mar 2007, 04:39

It doesn't have the latest remaster script, the one that supports ntfs. I installed it and did a remaster, it worked but did make the pza file into a pup file. This caused a challenge when I then tried to install it to a usb drive because the installer wanted a pza.....so isomaster, extract, rename, install, all good.
Can you make it so that it will accept either file?

The other issue I had with ndiswrapper is fixed in 2.14 so when you upgrade it it will be all good.

I'm thinking this will be my CE, great looking, gaim works, Mplayer works and small.

Craig

#54 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Sat 10 Mar 2007, 05:16

Nope, sorry. The whole reason I changed the prefixes on the save-file and pza_xxx.sfs files was to let it co-exist with Puppy better, so they don't try loading eachother's files. I will make a modified version for the next Pizzapup though, so it will work. If you post a link to the one you want, it will save me some work. Thanks

iscraigh · #55 Post by **iscraigh** » Sat 10 Mar 2007, 06:33

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=105

Also the setup network out of 2,14 the one in yours does not load ndiswrapper drivers

following the manual directions works but I have to modprobe on every reboot.

Where can I add a command to modprobe ndiswrapper?

Thanks

Craig

Scoticus · #56 Post by **Scoticus** » Sat 10 Mar 2007, 16:05

Tried again to access but on starting boot sequence my keyboard and mouse were not detected as USB. Once again got stuck when offered keyboard selection.

Ian

ricstef · #57 Post by **ricstef** » Sat 10 Mar 2007, 16:36

Pizzasgood,
I think you're looking for this simple change by Pakt to solve the USB kb & mouse detection.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13550

Keep up the good work.

Regards,
Richard.

#58 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Mon 12 Mar 2007, 04:59

Cool, thanks.

I found out I actually have two exams this week, but the one I didn't know about is just computer science. Also, we don't get CS homework when we have an exam. The time I spend studying will actually be less than the time I'd spend doing homework.

For stress reasons though, I might not finish 3.0.1 by St. Patrick's day, but I'll try. I want to get it done so I can work on the bootsplash again. I refuse to make 3.1 without my bootsplash. That way I'll be forced to work on it

So I might be a day late. Just letting you know. We'll see.

Nathan F · #59 Post by **Nathan F** » Mon 12 Mar 2007, 05:20

Cool, that will make two puplets with a boot splash

Nathan

bostonvaulter · #60 Post by **bostonvaulter** » Mon 19 Mar 2007, 10:15

Hey pizzasgood,

is there any chance in getting this page updated? http://www.puppylinux.org/user/downloads.php?cat_id=2

It still lists pizzapup105. I was halfway throw downloading it when I noticed that you said that pizzapup is up to version 3.0 in your sig...

thanks,
Jason

[edit]maybe you could update this thread also http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3145 . (it's the one linked from that puplet download page)[/edit]

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