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Re: Testing it now

#41 Post by peebee »

Wiz57 wrote:Hi peebee,
Testing the 32 bit build now! ScPup 19.01 +3, I grabbed the entire new iso,
extracted over contents of the directory I did my frugal install to HD on,
and booted...no problems so far! I did install Palemoon 27.3.0 from PPM,
working pretty well. Hopefully this post will be in the correct place this time!
Thanks,
Wiz57
Hi Wiz57

Jolly good...FYI

palemoon-28.3.1 .sfs is available via Internet -> Get Web Browser

or via link in post #1
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#42 Post by peebee »

64 bit
e151acda55149968426fcbb89c2c59f1 ScPup64-19.01+3-uefi-T.iso

{delta update} - must be applied to the base ScPup64-19.01+0-uefi-T.iso with md5 checksum c6df4031b279cc2c5346b9b75791fa81

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.
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#43 Post by ozsouth »

Peebee, this won't be a problem for anyone else, but in all previous 64 bit Pups, I've been able to run 32bit emelfm (& a few other utils) by adding a few 32 bit libs to /usr/lib , but not this Pup. I get 'emelfm file not found'. Works in LxPupSc64. I thought ScPup64 was LxPupSc64 minus lxde. Is there a 32 bit compat file?

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#44 Post by peebee »

ozsouth wrote:I thought ScPup64 was LxPupSc64 minus lxde. Is there a 32 bit compat file?
Hi ozsouth

It is LxPupSc64 minus LXDE.......can you provide any more info on the error report?

There is no "32 bit compat file" - and I wouldn't be sure how to create one without doing some research.....maybe the Slacko64 version might work???
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... o-14.2.sfs

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#45 Post by ozsouth »

Sorry Peebee - I forgot about 32bit libs in /lib. Only checked /usr/lib. Now Fine.
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Re: Palemooon.sfs

#46 Post by Wiz57 »

peebee wrote:
Wiz57 wrote:Hi peebee,
Testing the 32 bit build now! ScPup 19.01 +3, I grabbed the entire new iso,
extracted over contents of the directory I did my frugal install to HD on,
and booted...no problems so far! I did install Palemoon 27.3.0 from PPM,
working pretty well. Hopefully this post will be in the correct place this time!
Thanks,
Wiz57
Hi Wiz57

Jolly good...FYI

palemoon-28.3.1 .sfs is available via Internet -> Get Web Browser

or via link in post #1


Thanks peebee! Grabbed the sfs, installed without a hitch, only oddity
I've noticed is when changing Preferences (Tools/Preferences), when
you select a different option, the checkbox doesn't change...BUT the
setting will! Anyway, small annoyance, lol...to get a somewhat modern
browser to run on this old netbook (Acer Aspire One ZG5) has been
a fun filled adventure!
Wiz57 :wink:

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#47 Post by Wac »

Just want to report the following problem:

In ScPup64 19.01 +3, the firefox64-65.01-lxsc.sfs file found under "Get web browser", don't seem to work. It download but give some kind of error when you try to load it.

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#48 Post by peebee »

Wac wrote:In ScPup64 19.01 +3, the firefox64-65.01-lxsc.sfs file found under "Get web browser", don't seem to work.
Odd - works OK for me when loaded onto a pristine ScPup64....

What is the error? Run firefox in a terminal and copy/post the result please.

What is the md5 sumcheck of the sfs?

Do you have other things loaded?
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#49 Post by Wac »

Thank you, I did manage to load it with a txz file I had. When ever I tried to load the sfs file it said that it failed to load it. I use a "full" installation, and only loaded Skype and a Russian keyboard pet onto it.

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#50 Post by foxpup »

Wac wrote:Thank you, I did manage to load it with a txz file I had. When ever I tried to load the sfs file it said that it failed to load it. I use a "full" installation, and only loaded Skype and a Russian keyboard pet onto it.
That's it: sfs does not go well with full install. If you have 1G RAM or more, do a frugal install of Puppy: You will use Puppy's capabilities better.

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#51 Post by peebee »

Woof-CE and Slackware Current updates + new devx with GCC-8.3.0

32-bit
b5338bcd5d200647adb967baafdd60ba ScPup-19.01+4-uefi-T.iso also devx

{delta update} - must be applied to the base ScPup-19.01+0-uefi-T.iso with md5 checksum 61e86ef2b629c16601de16c608275393

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.

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64 bit
2e8cc119574ab88d3393bfeab9ea62a1 ScPup64-19.01+4-uefi-T.iso also devx

{delta update} - must be applied to the base ScPup64-19.01+0-uefi-T.iso with md5 checksum c6df4031b279cc2c5346b9b75791fa81

Updates are cumulative - only the most recent needs to be applied.
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#52 Post by corvus »

Hi Peebee, I've already got to appreciate your work with LxPupSc64 that I've had the pleasure to try in the past. Undoubtedly you are one of the most active members of this forum.
Now I have discovered ScPup64, installed it in frugal on USB 2.0 stick and use it on an ASUS X555LB, below the specifications:

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root# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc19070 Kernel: 4.19.13-lxpup64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 8.2.0) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 dm: N/A
           Distro: ScPup64 19.01
Machine:   Device: laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X555LB v: 1.0
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X555LB v: 1.0
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: X555LB.204 date: 01/13/2015
Battery    BAT0: charge: 11.6 Wh 69.8% condition: 16.6/37.3 Wh (45%) volts: 7.6/7.6
           model: ASUSTeK X555-50 serial: N/A status: Discharging
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7-5500U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9590
           clock speeds: min/max: 500/2401 MHz 1: 1276 MHz 2: 868 MHz 3: 1285 MHz 4: 1182 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1616
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940M] bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1347
           Display Server: X.org 1.20.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,vesa) FAILED: fbdev
           tty size: 149x38 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:9ca0
           Card-2 Intel Broadwell-U Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:160c
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.19.13-lxpup64
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: down
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0036
           IF: wlan0 state: up
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1015.9GB (0.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1 size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Cruzer_Edge size: 15.7GB serial: N/A
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 149 Uptime: 3:30 Memory: 843.3/11912.1MB Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 5.0.01 running in lxterminal) inxi: 2.3.8
I've been using it for a few days now. I have made some customizations and installed some applications from PPM and I have noticed that various versions of the dependencies are installed, for example in installing gkrellm I found myself with lm_sensors-3.4 and lm_sensors-3.5, it happened to me by installing gkrellm and the gtk3 libraries. Also missing the Compton icon in Puppy Control Pannel.
But apart from that I haven't had any other problems so far.
Thank you for the effort and the time you are dedicating to us.
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hwmon modules problem

#53 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

I've made frugals of both your most recent updates to your Slacko-based Pups.

Switched to JWM and loaded my all-in-one-links-only Apps sfs and most apps run as normal for Pups.

Just two on-going problems with many new Pups using Slackware and Debian bases (but not Ubuntu Pups):

1) hardware module (for CPU Temps) seems loaded but is not responding to sensors or sensors-detect. Boot-manager reports the needed smsc47b397 driver is loaded but sensors-detect says no i2c drivers found - but they are in the /lib directory as normal. So Pwidgets misses these data for its CPU Temp widget. (screenshot has the various windows)

2) Inkgui, the quite old-but-good ink level package to display these in my Epson printer is reporting no printer found (also in screenshot). Again, this is fine in Ubuntu Pups.

Older Slackos and DPups were also often not affected, so could these failures be kernel-related or new woof issues?

I'm happy to try any suggestion to explore these problems.

Thanks for all your work with these Pups.

David S.
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htop

#54 Post by corvus »

Hi peebee,
Htop starts but does not show processes, see screenshot below.

Greetings
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#55 Post by ozsouth »

@davids45 - have you tried taskbar temp - as per here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 78#1008278

Also, try running inkgui in terminal to see if any libs missing. If so can copy them from an inkgui-working pup.

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Re: htop

#56 Post by peebee »

corvus wrote:Htop starts but does not show processes
Thanks - affects 64-bit only - I know why - will be fixed in next build....
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Inkgui & CPU Temps Problems

#57 Post by davids45 »

G'day ozsouth,

I've tried your suggestions in some other non-working Pups with varied results (screenshots). I've included a both-good output in one of the screenshots.

If Pwidgets and the terminal show temperatures, so does the task bar. I had seen the start-up 'won't work' message from 01micko, but, sometimes, in some Pups, this would later work if I loaded the right smsc driver.

I tried running just 'ink' in the terminal but no parameters would get any response. No missing libs reported. Entering 'inkgui' gave just the 'no printers found' window, nothing in the terminal window.

I get a GDBus error message when ScPup starts (see its screenshot) which I forgot to mention before :oops: .

Anyway, I'm fine with plenty of old Stretch Pups & Slackos, and all Ubuntu-using Pups for CPU temperatures and printer ink-levels.

David S.
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#58 Post by OscarTalks »

Latest htop release is 2.2.0
Compiled from source and it seems to be working fine.
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-unicode
EDIT:- Now fixed so .pet package attachment removed.
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#59 Post by corvus »

Thank you very much OscarTalks.
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#60 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello Peebee,

I took a look at both 32bit and 64bit ScPup 19.01+4
Loaded devx and kernel_headers to test compiling of NetSurf browser.
Package gperf is required, it is only a small single executable so it may be worth considering adding it to the devx.

As with the slackos, there is the perl-html-parser package (perl modules) which is needed and missing. Installing this via PPM produces an error when compiling NetSurf which complains that the perl binaries and libraries are mismatched. Not sure why this should happen if the packages are all Slackware Current.

I grabbed the source package of the same number (3.71) from Debian Jessie repos and compiled that in ScPup and then everything is matched up correctly. Package to search for in Debian is named libhtml-parser-perl instead of perl-html-parser in Slackware. Anyway, with this, NetSurf compiles and runs OK. I have uploaded the 32bit and 64bit packages in case anyone wants to test them.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

The one from Alt Linux which you repackaged is also fine, but has the copy of the main executable /usr/bin/netsurf-gtk which is surplus to requirements because /usr/lib/netsurf/nsgtk is a copy of the same file and that is the one which gets called in all cases as far as I can see. If you want to be able to call it as netsurf-gtk I suppose you could add a symlink.

Looking good though, thanks for all the hard work and dedication.
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