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How to get Slacko's boot menu when booting into RAM?
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 01:11    Post subject:  How to get Slacko's boot menu when booting into RAM?  

booting into RAM? Now it sends me to the save right away, don't get the boot menu ...
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 02:28    Post subject: Re: how can I get to Slacko's boot menu, with the option of  

kuman11 wrote:
booting into RAM? Now it sends me to the save right away, don't get the boot menu ...


One way is trick it into thinking that you have 2 save files (or folders). Assuming your save file or folder is called puppysave.2fs. Make a text file called puppysave-dummy.2fs and save it in the same directory as the original save file. Now when boot it will ask you if you want to use puppysave.2fs, puppysave-dummy.2fs, or no save file at all. At that point, you can boot with no save file and create another real one if you want and delete puppysave-dummy.
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 02:43    Post subject:  

What specific version of Slacko?
Slacko is installed on what?
The install was done how?
What did the boot menu normally give you for boot options?

If we know exactly what boot loader menu you have, could give better answer as to how to select options.

Most boot menus are setup to boot the normal boot option after a few seconds of no activity.
Some are very short time, 5 seconds or less.
This is the time you have to select other options.

After you make a save it is normal to boot using it.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 16:09    Post subject:  

Hi kuman11,

If you're using Grub4dos as bootloader, the last part of the menu.lst it wrote is a listing for "Advanced Menu". Select that. The second listing on the GUI which then appears will be "title Slacko XXX ... RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave". Select that and Slacko will boot without using the SaveFile/Folder.
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2019, 01:05    Post subject:  

mike,

I'm trying to get to this menu, though it goes directly to the save, so I'll use dancytron solution.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2019, 10:45    Post subject:  

At the top of menu.lst is a block of instructions something like this:

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.2
#color blue/cyan yellow/blue white/black cyan/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
timeout 10
default 0

See if the timeout argument somehow got set to 0 (zero). With no 'timeout' you would have no opportunity to choose anything other than the default (0=first) menu.listing, thus unable to select Advance Menu.
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2019, 04:00    Post subject:  

mike, I have grub.cfg with similar values, seems timeout is set at 10
don't see menu.lst

insmod png
background_image /xslacko.png
set timeout=10
menuentry "Start X-Slacko Slim" {
linux /vmlinuz
initrd /initrd.xz
}
menuentry "Start X-Slacko Slim - RAM only" {
linux /vmlinuz pfix=ram
initrd /initrd.xz
}
menuentry "Start X-Slacko Slim - No X" {
linux /vmlinuz pfix=nox
initrd /initrd.xz
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2019, 04:08    Post subject:  

More,
Which folders in the save are absolutely necessary so I can delete some to free more space, it says it can't save all files.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2019, 04:53    Post subject:  

I would not delete any of them. They are in the save for a reason.

If you are using a save file.
Resize it to make it bigger, so it has some free space in it.

If using a save folder.
It is limited by how much free space is on the partition the save folder is on.
Check for stuff on the partition not needed.

If you have the browser you use setup to save everything it does. That can eat up space in the save.
Check the preferences in the browser.
Cache settings, history settings, etc........

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kuman11

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2019, 05:32    Post subject:  

bigpup, thanks.
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a_salty_dogg


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2019, 06:36    Post subject:  

@kuman11

You can massively reduce the size of your save files by:

1. Loading .sfs files instead of installing.pets, whenever you have the option.

2. Symlink large files/folders, typically browsers and their config files etc., to "home" directory. (Feel free to ask if you need guidance how to do this.)
Also has the advantage of letting you share up-to-date browser personal settings between Puppies, if applicable.

You can find which files and folders are the greediest for space by running and navigating around the "gdmap" utility.
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kuman11

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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 10:47    Post subject:  

Which one of the 5 'gdmaps' is good for XSlacko? I tried the 5th, can't exec the script ...
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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 10:54    Post subject:    

Thanks dancytron, it worked
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a_salty_dogg


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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 12:47    Post subject:  

Oh, I'd thought all Puppies had gdmap built in, but it seems X-Slacko Slim doesn't for some reason (maybe excluded in attempt to keep it light?).

The 5.7 Slackos have version 0.8.0, so I'd suggest trying that one first, unless someone with more experience of working with XSlacko Slim comes along and can advise better? (Never use it myself, found it too finicky)

After installation the menu entry should appear under "Filesystem > Gdmap graphical disk usage", or start it in terminal as "gdmap".
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