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darry19662018

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2018, 22:38    Post subject: Re: Slacko 5.8Bare Edition  

sheldonisaac wrote:
darry19662018 wrote:
I have made a Barebones version of 5.8CE by Sailor without adrive remastered with woofy 0.91 has GmPlayer as media player left in but is very minimal for loading what you want.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/slacko-5.8CEbare.iso/download
Just got it, darry19662018, many thanks! Using Opera 12.16 under your Barebones version of 5.8CE .

Sheldon

Not a problem Sheldon, run it myself or though I'm not on the internet much these days.
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darry19662018

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2018, 22:39    Post subject:  

While I'm at it merry xmas and new year to all.
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6502coder


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jan 2019, 17:44    Post subject:  

I have been happily running the 571 builds from a flash drive, but I have avoided the 5.8 builds so far due to the remarks about the newer kernels causing noticeably slower disk writes.

Nonetheless I did a LiveCD test of the 5.8.3 r6773 build posted today. No bugs found so far.

The really good news: I did a few cursory speed tests involving copying largish (10-150 MB) files, and comparison with the same tests on the most recent 571 build showed the 5.8.3 r6773 build to be at worst 5% slower, which is statistically meaningless. In short, I see no meaningful slowdown. This was surprising to me because my ancient Celeron M processor HAS proved to be affected speedwise by the differences between the 4.x kernels in various builds of XenialPup and DPup Stretch.
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Volhout

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2019, 07:14    Post subject: 5.8.3CE R6773
Subject description: What has changed ?
 

Dear Sailor (-or- 8Geee ?)

I have upgraded my PC's few month ago with 5.8.3CE and I am very happy with it's performance. Haven't seen any crashes, could make my PC's work on WIFI, touch, LCD backlight, video, audio, etc... And 5.8.3 accepted (automatically converted!) my save file from the old Slacko 5.7.0. So I converted...

Now I read from 6502coder (and verified it) that there is a new release R6773.

Is there any place / forum where I can folow the developments of this Slacko 5.8.3 ?

What has changed ? Is it possible for Sailor or others to give some info here ?

I can imagine that developers do not want to open a thread simply because of the unavoidable list of questions "can you include this xxxxx, I can't yyyy" that people expect help with. They create something for themselves, and post it out oc courtesy.

But please inform us what you did.....

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Volhout
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darry19662018

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2019, 04:25    Post subject:  

Hey Volhout if you go to the first post of this thread it will have a link to go to Sailor's 5.8 drive and you will find latest build.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2019, 04:28    Post subject:  

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Volhout

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2019, 08:19    Post subject:  

darry19662018 wrote:
Hey Volhout if you go to the first post of this thread it will have a link to go to Sailor's 5.8 drive and you will find latest build.


Hi Darry19662018,

I did look at that link, that's where I got the R6773 release from.

But I am curious about the release notes. What is changed between my version and the R6773? Kernel swap ? Something must have changed.??

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Volhout
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 00:58    Post subject:  

Hi Volhout,

Sorry not sure on that as I still happily run the older version.Smile
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8Geee


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 11:18    Post subject:  

Most of the changes relate to the kernel itself. Kernel dot org puts up a list of supported kernels and their most recent update. This one is k3.18.133 right now. Most of the heavy lifting concerning meltdown/spectre seems done... so getting back to fixing apps.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Apr 2019, 20:55    Post subject:  

Just did a frugal install of the recently-posted Slacko583 r6936z to my old Celeron M laptop. This is working great with Mike Walsh's Portable PaleMoon PET!
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2019, 00:40    Post subject:  

I noticed in the 6936z edition (3.18.138) a few things I don't remember seeing before... but my last full atempt was 6552.

jwm is not behaving
gtk2 themes are default only
as such FF27 plugin does not hold the window settings from a modified rockstar gtk2

apparently woofCE due to an 'entangled' nature (example root/.packages moved to /var) cannot have glibc updated due to location differences. All it did was reload glibc2.15 and make me reset everything all over again.

GTK3 is OK, but I dont think migrating ff65.0.2 will go.
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Right now I'm working on ttuuxxx's updated version using k3.4.82 (OK for Atom CPU ONLY).
That is going well, and everything's configured. I will attempt glibc2.20, and cups2.2.11 when anchored down firmly. I have a ? or 2 for tux that i need answered first.

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Sailor Enceladus

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2019, 07:53    Post subject:  

Thanks 6502coder and 8Geee for the ongoing feedback and reports. I'm glad it's not just me playing around with those newer woof-CE builds. Smile Thanks also to mikeslr for the Slacko 5.7.2 Community Edition, it looks like an interesting project!

8Geee wrote:
jwm is not behaving
gtk2 themes are default only
as such FF27 plugin does not hold the window settings from a modified rockstar gtk2

Thanks 8Geee. Glad it's not just me. I noticed too the altered gtk themes about a month ago in woof-CE (3builddistro-Z), and tried to restore at least the default one to the adrv, but that's obviously not enough for if you change themes or don't include the adrv so I may just end up manually injecting the old ones into the iso when the next kernel update comes out, or may just stick to using 5.7.1_r6231 as base as you also pointed out some recent issues with symlinks to /var and gtk3.

In the meantime updated the Slacko 5.7.1 iso (just slackware and kernel updates, and 4 minor bugfixes, one mentioned by 6502coder), and either file-5.36 fixed the stripping issue with file-5.34 or the extra stripping in 2createpackages already helped because it appears to be working again (libspreadsheet.so filesize 2639304). Thanks to 6502coder for the kernel tests too, I think my disk writing/reading slowdown was probably attributed to something else but will keep an eye out for it.

Volhout wrote:
The useual hurdle with the N2600 is the manual config of XORG for modesetting, but that was basically it.

I had to do this on my Atom N2600 as well. I also found that the wireless driver (Atheros) on my Atom N270 somewhat more reliable than the Broadcom driver for the N2600, but maybe that's more of a hardware issue. I believe Slacko 6.3.2 worked on the N2600 without doing the xorgwizard thing but would have to check again. Love the small form factor of netbooks. Smile

edit: I noticed that once in a while, my trackpad on the N2600 gets stuck with "scroll up/down" on instead or being able to move. If I press Ctrl-Alt-F3 then Ctrl-Alt-F4 it refreshes back to normal though. Might try to investigate what causes this later.
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Volhout

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PostPosted: Tue 21 May 2019, 05:40    Post subject: Slacko 5.7.1 on Asus X101CH netbook  

Hi Sailor Enceladus,

Tried you 5.7.1 on my Asus netbook that has succesfully performed for 5 years on Mick0's Slacko 5.7.0.
Had used 5.8.3 for few month, but that was less compatible with my SFS's (complained about missing libes, an libs that where not compiled with GCC 2.13....)
Running 5.7.1 now

I fed it with my savefile from 5.7.0 and it converted it. Alsmost everything worked out of the box, except …. the desktop. I had some custom icons on it, and it reverted to puppy standard.
After that was fixed I all worked. The palemoon portable pet was added (why not an SFS...?? that doesn't eat into the save file).

I however have one observation that puzzles me.

During bootup, after main sfs, adrive and zdrive are loaded, there is a line

/dev/loop3 not cleanly mounted, check forced
and some lines with inodes that are fixed.
After few reboots, the inodes all got fixed, but still the /dev/loop3 message remains, including the check.

Is there something I have to do ? Can I / should I / fix this...?

Everything seems to work okay, so maybe action is not needed. To be honest...I don't even know what an inode is...

Regards,

Volhout
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2019, 19:10    Post subject:  

I have had a frugal install of Slacko583 on my old Celeron laptop for 3 months now and have been doing manual frugal updates to each newest version since r6936z. The only glitch occurred a couple of weeks ago when I attempted to update from r6967 to r7101, which resulted in a system where X was broken, at which point I did a fresh install of r7101.

Today I did a manual update to r7222. Got the much-discussed dire warning about mismatched Woof versions, which I ignored. At any rate, the update of my save-folder seems to have been successful as I am posting this now from the newly updated system.

BTW I also have DPupStretch 7.5 RC4 installed on this machine, and DPup and Slacko share the same installation of PaleMoon (Mike Walsh's portable version), which I placed in /mnt/home
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Jul 2019, 20:23    Post subject:  

Thanks 6502coder and Volhout for the reports! Interesting to hear how old savefiles work with all the woof-ce changes. Smile
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