BionicDog save file

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edmont
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BionicDog save file

#1 Post by edmont »

I'm using BionicDog , 7.5 .

I use the third option from the boot menu .

There doesn't appear to be the usual sfs save file as found in other puppies
also when I use the save option at the end of a session I notice that the
available space is decreasing faster than expected.
So are multiple save files being created or does the space even out once
the save is complete.

Can I use a save file, from a previous installation of BionicDog , with a fresh installation of BionicDog.

On a different note , do I need to use xrandr to set a 1080p resolution.

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#2 Post by bigpup »

I use the third option from the boot menu .
What does this third option say?
Is it something like boot RAM only or RAM only no save?
If yes.
you are booting not using a save.
So each time you shutdown it asks if you want to make a save.
You have probably made several different saves.
But because you keep booting RAM only, it never looks for them, to use them.
That is what you are seeing using up space.

When you boot, select the first option, which should be normal boot. It will use any save it finds. The save is where Puppy frugal install saves settings, added software, etc......

That RAM only or RAM no save, boot entry, is so you can boot not using a save.
Has nothing to do with running in RAM or not running in RAM.
Puppy frugal install, always runs in ram, no matter how you boot it.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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BionicDog

#3 Post by edmont »

The selection I'm using says :

BionicDog-porteus-boot-save on EXIT changes to /casper/changes

Upon using this I'm able to save and load between sessions.

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#4 Post by bigpup »

Sorry, I do not use Bionicdog.
So, I am not going to try and help you.
Some Bionicdog user will come along.
Good luck.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#5 Post by watchdog »

Check your grub4dos or grub-legacy menu entry. The correct one should be of the following kind:

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title BionicDog32 (sdb1) 
uuid xxxyyyzzz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz
With the above menu entry the savedir should be loaded at every boot. The dir /casper/changes can grow very fast depending on the software you install because they are not stripped as in puppy.

ITSMERSH

#6 Post by ITSMERSH »

I'm using BionicDog , 7.5 .
There is just no BionicDog in version 7.5.

And BionicDog isn't use a save file.

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#7 Post by fredx181 »

Hi edmont, see here for boot -code examples
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fredx ... -codes.txt

Looks like you are using save-folder
Using save-file is possible also, but needs to be created (CreateSave from Menu), then you can use grub4dos entry something like this (if changes.dat is in "casper" directory)

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title BionicDog save on exit (sda1) 
root (hd0,0) 
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/changes.dat 
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz
watchdog wrote:The dir /casper/changes can grow very fast depending on the software you install because they are not stripped as in puppy.
The binaries are "stripped" but you probably mean that Bionicdog doesn't have "trim the fat" as in Puppy
(e.g. remove man and doc files (and I think also unneeded locale files).
Note also that only updating the package lists (apt-get update or 'Reload' from Synaptic) takes more then 100MB of space in save storage and of course depending on which packages you install it can grow a lot more.

EDIT:
ITSMERSH wrote:
I'm using BionicDog , 7.5 .
There is just no BionicDog in version 7.5.
Yes indeed , no BionicDog version 7.5 exists, hopefully not being confused with BionicPup, its really something else

Fred

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#9 Post by fredx181 »

rufwoof wrote:
I'm using BionicDog , 7.5
Nothing to do with Puppy Linux. Please don't join the arrogant parasites that frequent this Puppy Linux board as it just promotes further spam.
In a bad mood today, rufwoof ?

ITSMERSH

#10 Post by ITSMERSH »

fredx181 wrote:
rufwoof wrote:
I'm using BionicDog , 7.5
Nothing to do with Puppy Linux. Please don't join the arrogant parasites that frequent this Puppy Linux board as it just promotes further spam.
In a bad mood today, rufwoof ?
My question!

I'm a bit surprised (to avoid saying :shock: ) of this statement.

I like BionicDog!

Even if it's not a Puppy!

It's the only one that is able to recognize my Phonic Helix Board 24 MKII to record multiple tracks simultaneously in Ardour 5.

I wish, BionicPup (or any else current Puppy) could do that!

And it runs with very low resource hunger also on a Samsung N150 Netbook being able to do music e.g. Qtractor and Qsynth!

I wish also, I just could build my own version of it!

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#11 Post by fredx181 »

Thanks Rainer, good to hear !
I wish also, I just could build my own version of it!
I may misunderstand what you mean, but you can easily build your own by configuring everything as you like and then do a remaster (I'd recommend to use "Quick remaster").

Fred

ITSMERSH

#12 Post by ITSMERSH »

fredx181 wrote:Thanks Rainer, good to hear !
I wish also, I just could build my own version of it!
I may misunderstand what you mean, but you can easily build your own by configuring everything as you like and then do a remaster (I'd recommend to use "Quick remaster").

Fred
Yes thanks. I know about the remaster.

I meant it to build / create one the way you do.

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changes

#14 Post by edmont »

When I was first attempting to save the session changes I happened to create
a file changes.dat in directory /mnt/sdb1/casper ; I also , in a later session , created a file named changes2.dat . The latter file is the larger .

There's also a file titled 01-filesystem.squashfs , in the same directory .
I'm not certain if this is an alterable file.

When I'm using Puppy Linux I don't tend to trim the fat anyway.
















fredx181 wrote:Hi edmont, see here for boot -code examples
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fredx ... -codes.txt

Looks like you are using save-folder
Using save-file is possible also, but needs to be created (CreateSave from Menu), then you can use grub4dos entry something like this (if changes.dat is in "casper" directory)

Code: Select all

title BionicDog save on exit (sda1) 
root (hd0,0) 
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/changes.dat 
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz
watchdog wrote:The dir /casper/changes can grow very fast depending on the software you install because they are not stripped as in puppy.
The binaries are "stripped" but you probably mean that Bionicdog doesn't have "trim the fat" as in Puppy
(e.g. remove man and doc files (and I think also unneeded locale files).
Note also that only updating the package lists (apt-get update or 'Reload' from Synaptic) takes more then 100MB of space in save storage and of course depending on which packages you install it can grow a lot more.

EDIT:
ITSMERSH wrote:
I'm using BionicDog , 7.5 .
There is just no BionicDog in version 7.5.
Yes indeed , no BionicDog version 7.5 exists, hopefully not being confused with BionicPup, its really something else

Fred

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