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Revolverve


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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2019, 18:21    Post subject:  

Updating 2 computers savefile(uefi/ntfs/lick) and savefolder(legacy) from .7 to 7.9.8 made it impossible to see(rox) mounted drives from desktop,did not investigate more.
New savefile/folder made it alright.
Lets try to break something now. Wink
Farewell Tahrpup64...bravo 666philb & all.

oops,tumbled on error in pet:
qjackctl-0.5.5-x64_qt5.9.pet
sorry,fixed ,added menu entry and reuploaded.
Btw it need from ppm;jackd5+python-dbus+jack2_1.2.6-1,(same for muse3 sfs)
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2019, 22:38    Post subject:  

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Updating 2 computers savefile(uefi/ntfs/lick) and savefolder(legacy) from .7 to 7.9.8 made it impossible to see(rox) mounted drives from desktop,did not investigate more.

I had the same problem with the desktop drive icons using an old save from Bionicpup64 7.9.7.
Click on icon and no mount indication and no Rox window showing contents.
I just figured all the messing around I did with that save, was the problem.
A fresh install of Bionicpup64 7.9.8 and a new save fixed everything with the desktop drive icons and Rox.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jan 2019, 07:46    Post subject:  

The problem with the drive icons not mounting drives is because the file /usr/local/bin/drive_all is missing after the upgrade. Replacing it with the one from the previous version fixes it.

Also, when compiling some applications you get errors about too many levels of symlinks. That can be fixed by copying the files inside /usr/include/sys from the devx to /usr/include/sys.

Really like this OS!
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jan 2019, 08:29    Post subject:  

l0wt3ch wrote:
The problem with the drive icons not mounting drives is because the file /usr/local/bin/drive_all is missing after the upgrade.

Woof-CE change:

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/commit/fa35ed3335ba6fe923e8fdee60e0fba198892cab

maybe make a symlink pro-tem

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ETP


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jan 2019, 13:17    Post subject: Bionicpup64 7.9.8 CE RC  

Bionicpup64 7.9.8 CE RC

Hi Phil,

Whilst looking at the System Log I noticed that scOttman´s pkg script called by the
/root/Startup/PPMUpdatedatabase script was triggering a tad too early and was taking
precedence over more vital items in the boot process such as the detection of wireless peripherals.

My first simple solution was to add a sleep 60 at the start of the script thus:

Code:
#!/bin/sh
# 1 minute delayed start added - ETP 6th January 2019
sleep 60
exec pkg ru bionic-main bionic-universe bionic-multiverse


Upon reflection I did not really see a need to run it more than once per day so have now implemented
an anacron solution to do that with a 1 minute delay at boot time plus a confirmatory tone & pop-up message once it has run.

In contrast to cron, which can be disabled (default) or enabled, anacron is not a daemon. It´s task is to run one or more
jobs once only, generally on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

For anyone using a dial-up modem or who runs 24/7, jobs can be run instantly on an ad hoc basis by issuing the
following command in a terminal:

Code:
root# anacron -f -n


(The -f forces the job to be run regardless of any flags/stamps and the -n ignores any specified job start delay in the anacrontab file.)

If anyone sees any merit in this approach I will post some instructions together with a pet containing the 2 files needed.
Anacron itself, [anacron_2.3-24|cron-like program that doesn´t go by time] is available via PPM.

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westwest

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jan 2019, 13:44    Post subject: boot  

I'm experiencing hangups during boot with 7.9.8 CE RC...
Frugal install on a Dell Latitude E6400.
This started with 7.9.8 Alpha or Beta

First hangup for 2 minutes during "Loading Kernel Modules..."

Second hangup for another 2 minutes at login, just before sarting X.

X eventually starts, with CPU at ~80%.
Task manager reveals 2 udevd processes. Once those are killed, everything runs smoothly.

I've tried swapping kernels, hangups persist.

Disabling udev completely takes care of the double process after reboot (there's a similar situation with the latest FatDog).

Other pups, recent or not, and Bionic 7.9.7 boot fine.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jan 2019, 17:23    Post subject: Bionicpup64 7.9.8 CE RC  

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I updated the kernel that I'm using:

CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2750/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
N

Working well so far.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jan 2019, 18:03    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
I updated the kernel that I'm using:

How does this make any report you give for Using Bionicpup64 7.9.8 useful?

If you change the kernel. You are no longer testing Bionicpup64 7.9.8, as it is released.
You are testing your version of Bionicpup64 7.9.8.
Any issues you report could be something you did.

Well, I guess you are confirming the kernel can be changed.

The question is, why are you changing the kernel?
Something wrong with the one in Bionicpup64 7.9.8 as it is released?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jan 2019, 20:48    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

The question is, why are you changing the kernel?
Something wrong with the one in Bionicpup64 7.9.8 as it is released?


It's two updates behind:

https://www.kernel.org/

I can't get sound in firefox with the one that I'm using, sound works in kodi and vlc okay.

I updated my Slacko64-rc3 to 4-14-92 and sound works in firefox esr.

I'm just experimenting anyway so I won't post in this thread anymore.
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belham2

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jan 2019, 03:50    Post subject:  

Bigpup to Billtoo:
How does this make any report you give for Using Bionicpup64 7.9.8 useful?


Billtoo's reply:
I'm just experimenting anyway so I won't post in this thread anymore.


I mean, WTF! We get "useful" reports in how and what kernels can work, especially with different things, and this is the kind of post we get?

Bigpup, Goddamn, take your Donald-Trump-like behavior and keep it to yourself. Billtoo has single-handedly done more for solving problems, and keeping people abreast of changes that can be made, to solve problems, than anything you (or I) have did for the past 8 years. You might think you or I have posted a lot, but in all honesty we aven't posted crap compared to Bill.

Please think next time before you write some inane comment like that, especially to a valuable resource like Bill. Damn...... Confused Why aren't you paying attention to all the people who show up in the Puppy Project and/or Puppy Derivative sections, and start polluting things with their single posts about an OS that already has a thread. Why am I the only one who patrols this, or tries to?? But, yet, somehow you have time to go after Bill for something totally stupid. Come on, wake up...


Please, Bill, don't stop posting and ignore what Bigpup wrote. He must have got a bad patch of coffee, don't know how else to explain it.

What the heck is happening with this world?? We turn on our own now???
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jan 2019, 11:10    Post subject:  

Yes, billtoo, please continue to post.
The information you provide is valuable. Bionicpup64 is not Ubuntu Bionic Beaver. We are not bound to rigidly follow what Ubuntu does. If, as in your case, the kernel Ubuntu uses causes a problem or even if a different kernel just works better, Puppy users and especially the Dev publishing a Puppy should know about it.

One of Puppies strength's is how easy it is that it is almost as easy to change kernels as it is to change web-browsers, or anything else. It is just as important to know, perhaps more important, that kernel X breaks a major web-browser and kernel Y doesn't, than to know that Browser version 2 works while Browser version 1 doesn't.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jan 2019, 11:25    Post subject:  

Quote:
What the heck is happening with this world??

Some say HAARP?
Some say Chemtrails?
Some say GOD?
Some say Satan?

Probably all of this together? Wink

Back to topic BionicPup!

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jan 2019, 12:55    Post subject:  

pain in the heck....
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jan 2019, 16:41    Post subject: Boot  

Boot issues resolved, by disabling Bluetooth in the BIOS.
Seems to be a common problem for older Dells with newer kernels.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2019, 02:47    Post subject:  

This is at the RC stage of release.

What Bionicpup64 7.9.8 does, as it is released as a iso, is what is important at this point.
It is not going to be released with a different kernel than the one that is in it now.
So, that kernel needs to be used, tested, worked over, etc....

You can turn about any Puppy version into something different by changing the Linux kernel in it.

I asked a simple question.
Is there something wrong with the kernel that is in Bionicpu64 7.9.8 that you needed to change the kernel?

Quote:
Answer:
It's two updates behind:

https://www.kernel.org/

I can't get sound in firefox with the one that I'm using, sound works in kodi and vlc okay.

There must be something wrong with the firefox he is using.
Quickpet>Browsers>Firefox
Download and install this Firefox and sound will work.
You should not need to change the kernel to try to fix Firefox sound.
Just need to install Firefox setup for Bionicpu64 7.9.8

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