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#501 Post by bigpup »

Bionicpup64 7.9.8
Frugal install + save folder

Booting just to the desktop and no programs started by me.

Looking at Htop.
Seems to be a big amount of processor usage going on.
Seems to be way to much activity just to be booted to the desktop.
syslogd and klogd seem to be the really big users.
Are these really needed?

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#502 Post by artsown »

@bigpup

Something is wrong with your installation. On my i5 quad core PC, HTOP
ram useage is 497 meg and core utilization is practically nil (0 to
2% max) at startup.

Art

ITSMERSH

#503 Post by ITSMERSH »

Hi.

HTOP:

After booting into X desktop there's no such high activity on my machine as bigpup mentioned.

MKSQUASHFS:

When creating a .sfs via dir2sfs HTOP is listing eleven (11) processes of mksqashfs.

JACK Audio:

In 7.9.6 I could use qjackctl (my own compiled version) from .sfs and it worked immediately and properly.

In 7.9.7 I could NOT use qjackctl (my own compiled version) from .sfs. Needed to install to get it working.

In 7.9.8 again I can use qjackctl (my own compiled version) from .sfs and it worked immediately and properly.

I think this is not dependent on qjackctl but on one of the libjack... packages.

Is it intended to be kept the way like it was in 7.9.6 and now again in 7.9.8, so that I would not need to install the libjack... packages into future and final releases?

That of course would be nice! :D

Thanks.
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#504 Post by bigpup »

After booting into X desktop there's no such high activity on my machine as bigpup mentioned.
Did a Quickpet>Info>Bionicpup updates.
Well, booted up today and no high processor activity shown in Htop.

Do notice that syslogd and klogd are now not showing any activity.

Anyone understand what syslogd and klogd are actually doing?

I am now using an old save folder from an install of Bionicpup64 7.9.7
No save was being used when I first saw this high processor activity.
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#505 Post by ITSMERSH »

I don't know this for sure (re: syslogd and klogd).

Though I could observe several kworker processes running since the upcoming of Tahr Puppy. Currently there are thirteen (13) running in my OS. The number of running kworker processes seems to differ rarely from time to time.

Probably they are somehow responsible in addition for Kdenlive installing and running so easy in newer Puppies (even from .sfs)?

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#506 Post by bigpup »

Bionicpup64 7.9.8 fresh frugal install.

Rox file manager
Right click on an image file.
Select default image editor.
Nothing happens.

Default image editor is set as Gimp.
Used Default Application Chooser to set image editor to Mtpaint.

Now image opens in Mtpaint
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#507 Post by ITSMERSH »

Like in 7.9.6 & 7.9.7 the pmount and drive's tool tips in 7.9.8 still showing 0,0G for the drive sizes.
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#508 Post by foxpup »

ITSMERSH wrote:Like in 7.9.6 & 7.9.7 the pmount and drive's tool tips in 7.9.8 still showing 0,0G for the drive sizes.
It seems to be a problem for ext fs and ntfs, not vfat.
I have a gpt ssd.

EDIT: pmount starts up with errors in terminal:

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root# pmount
/etc/rc.d/functions_x: line 30: printf: 11.8164: invalid number
/etc/rc.d/functions_x: line 30: printf: 19.3359: invalid number
/etc/rc.d/functions_x: line 30: printf: 21.3321: invalid number
/usr/sbin/pmount: line 672:  7260 Terminated              /usr/lib/gtkdialog/box_splash -close never -fontsize large -text "$(gettext 'Please wait, probing hardware...')"
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#509 Post by Billtoo »

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Here's htop using a different kernel.
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#510 Post by bigpup »

Now I see the same as you in Htop.

For some reason, I booted up and syslogd and klogd were going nuts, using large amounts of CPU processing.

After several reboots, those programs are now doing nothing.
They are loaded as active, but no activity being shown.
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#511 Post by Revolverve »

Updating 2 computers savefile(uefi/ntfs/lick) and savefolder(legacy) from .7 to 7.9.8 made it impossible to see(rox) mounted drives from desktop,did not investigate more.
New savefile/folder made it alright.
Lets try to break something now. ;)
Farewell Tahrpup64...bravo 666philb & all.

oops,tumbled on error in pet:
qjackctl-0.5.5-x64_qt5.9.pet
sorry,fixed ,added menu entry and reuploaded.
Btw it need from ppm;jackd5+python-dbus+jack2_1.2.6-1,(same for muse3 sfs)

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#512 Post by bigpup »

Updating 2 computers savefile(uefi/ntfs/lick) and savefolder(legacy) from .7 to 7.9.8 made it impossible to see(rox) mounted drives from desktop,did not investigate more.
I had the same problem with the desktop drive icons using an old save from Bionicpup64 7.9.7.
Click on icon and no mount indication and no Rox window showing contents.
I just figured all the messing around I did with that save, was the problem.
A fresh install of Bionicpup64 7.9.8 and a new save fixed everything with the desktop drive icons and Rox.
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#513 Post by l0wt3ch »

The problem with the drive icons not mounting drives is because the file /usr/local/bin/drive_all is missing after the upgrade. Replacing it with the one from the previous version fixes it.

Also, when compiling some applications you get errors about too many levels of symlinks. That can be fixed by copying the files inside /usr/include/sys from the devx to /usr/include/sys.

Really like this OS!

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#514 Post by peebee »

l0wt3ch wrote:The problem with the drive icons not mounting drives is because the file /usr/local/bin/drive_all is missing after the upgrade.
Woof-CE change:

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... a198892cab

maybe make a symlink pro-tem
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#515 Post by ETP »

Bionicpup64 7.9.8 CE RC

Hi Phil,

Whilst looking at the System Log I noticed that scOttman´s pkg script called by the
/root/Startup/PPMUpdatedatabase script was triggering a tad too early and was taking
precedence over more vital items in the boot process such as the detection of wireless peripherals.

My first simple solution was to add a sleep 60 at the start of the script thus:

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#!/bin/sh
# 1 minute delayed start added - ETP 6th January 2019
sleep 60
exec pkg ru bionic-main bionic-universe bionic-multiverse
Upon reflection I did not really see a need to run it more than once per day so have now implemented
an anacron solution to do that with a 1 minute delay at boot time plus a confirmatory tone & pop-up message once it has run.

In contrast to cron, which can be disabled (default) or enabled, anacron is not a daemon. It´s task is to run one or more
jobs once only, generally on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

For anyone using a dial-up modem or who runs 24/7, jobs can be run instantly on an ad hoc basis by issuing the
following command in a terminal:

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root# anacron -f -n
(The -f forces the job to be run regardless of any flags/stamps and the -n ignores any specified job start delay in the anacrontab file.)

If anyone sees any merit in this approach I will post some instructions together with a pet containing the 2 files needed.
Anacron itself, [anacron_2.3-24|cron-like program that doesn´t go by time] is available via PPM.
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#516 Post by westwest »

I'm experiencing hangups during boot with 7.9.8 CE RC...
Frugal install on a Dell Latitude E6400.
This started with 7.9.8 Alpha or Beta

First hangup for 2 minutes during "Loading Kernel Modules..."

Second hangup for another 2 minutes at login, just before sarting X.

X eventually starts, with CPU at ~80%.
Task manager reveals 2 udevd processes. Once those are killed, everything runs smoothly.

I've tried swapping kernels, hangups persist.

Disabling udev completely takes care of the double process after reboot (there's a similar situation with the latest FatDog).

Other pups, recent or not, and Bionic 7.9.7 boot fine.

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#517 Post by Billtoo »

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I updated the kernel that I'm using:

CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2750/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87
N

Working well so far.
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#518 Post by bigpup »

Billtoo wrote:I updated the kernel that I'm using:
How does this make any report you give for Using Bionicpup64 7.9.8 useful?

If you change the kernel. You are no longer testing Bionicpup64 7.9.8, as it is released.
You are testing your version of Bionicpup64 7.9.8.
Any issues you report could be something you did.

Well, I guess you are confirming the kernel can be changed.

The question is, why are you changing the kernel?
Something wrong with the one in Bionicpup64 7.9.8 as it is released?
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#519 Post by Billtoo »

bigpup wrote: The question is, why are you changing the kernel?
Something wrong with the one in Bionicpup64 7.9.8 as it is released?
It's two updates behind:

https://www.kernel.org/

I can't get sound in firefox with the one that I'm using, sound works in kodi and vlc okay.

I updated my Slacko64-rc3 to 4-14-92 and sound works in firefox esr.

I'm just experimenting anyway so I won't post in this thread anymore.

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#520 Post by belham2 »

Bigpup to Billtoo:
How does this make any report you give for Using Bionicpup64 7.9.8 useful?


Billtoo's reply:
I'm just experimenting anyway so I won't post in this thread anymore.


I mean, WTF! We get "useful" reports in how and what kernels can work, especially with different things, and this is the kind of post we get?

Bigpup, Goddamn, take your Donald-Trump-like behavior and keep it to yourself. Billtoo has single-handedly done more for solving problems, and keeping people abreast of changes that can be made, to solve problems, than anything you (or I) have did for the past 8 years. You might think you or I have posted a lot, but in all honesty we aven't posted crap compared to Bill.

Please think next time before you write some inane comment like that, especially to a valuable resource like Bill. Damn...... :? Why aren't you paying attention to all the people who show up in the Puppy Project and/or Puppy Derivative sections, and start polluting things with their single posts about an OS that already has a thread. Why am I the only one who patrols this, or tries to?? But, yet, somehow you have time to go after Bill for something totally stupid. Come on, wake up...


Please, Bill, don't stop posting and ignore what Bigpup wrote. He must have got a bad patch of coffee, don't know how else to explain it.

What the heck is happening with this world?? We turn on our own now???

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