How to run Puppy on a Win 10 tablet that no longer(Solved)

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How to run Puppy on a Win 10 tablet that no longer(Solved)

#1 Post by RickGT351 »

I have a TWPno3 model E2005 tablet which no longer boots after a windows update. (Surprise surprise sarc)
Since it is now sitting around doing nothing, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get one of these running puppy. I have a cable I can plug a usb flash drive into.
I already tried using the Use Another Operating System option but it didn't like the linux on the flash drive and wanted windows (fussy thing)
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#2 Post by bigpup »

Not easy to find info on this tablet.

I will do some guessing.

If you know how to get into the bios settings.
Look for a setting to disable secure boot.
With secure boot disabled, that may unlock other settings in the bios, about what device you can boot from.
I already tried using the Use Another Operating System option but it didn't like the linux on the flash drive
What did it give for error message about using Linux?
What Linux was on the USB drive?

Sorry, but need to ask.
You do completely understand how to put Puppy Linux on a USB drive so it is bootable?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#3 Post by RickGT351 »

I have turned secure boot and fast boot off as per mikeslr's excellent article http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=100422.
After the tablet goes through its oops I'm broken and restart twice routine, I select Use A Device and choose EFI USB Device, I get the error message
System doesn't have any USB boot option. Please select another boot option in Boot Manager Menu
Yes Bigpup, I know how to make a bootable usb drive.
I am using Xenial pup 64 for this exercise
The setup utility in the BIOS (old language) is InsydeH20 Setup UtilityRev 5.0

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#4 Post by rcrsn51 »

Yes Bigpup, I know how to make a bootable usb drive.
Is your USB drive structured as an EFI device?

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#5 Post by bigpup »

System doesn't have any USB boot option. Please select another boot option in Boot Manager Menu
What options does it give?

Format of drive may need to be fat32. Some computers only see that format as a bootable USB.
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#6 Post by RickGT351 »

rcrsn51 wrote:
Yes Bigpup, I know how to make a bootable usb drive.
Is your USB drive structured as an EFI device?
Yes here is a picture of the boot menu when I use the usb flash drive in my computer
Hopefully this works. The 2nd image is the grumpy message I get if I try and boot to the UEFI flash drive.
If I boot from the regular flash drive entry, it works fine

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#7 Post by RickGT351 »

bigpup wrote:
System doesn't have any USB boot option. Please select another boot option in Boot Manager Menu
What options does it give?

Format of drive may need to be fat32. Some computers only see that format as a bootable USB.
The options on the Use A Device menu are Windows Recovery Manager, EFI USB Device, EFI DVD/CD-ROM and EFI Network

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#8 Post by rcrsn51 »

I've seen this myself. The only USB device that UEFI would accept as valid was one containing a Windows reinstall image.

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#9 Post by rcrsn51 »

If I boot from the regular flash drive entry, it works fine
Do you mean that it boots to the OS on the flash drive or to Windows?

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#10 Post by bigpup »

Yes here is a picture of the boot menu when I use the usb flash drive in my computer
That menu looks a lot like my computers menu.

I am going to assume Puppy is on a Lexar USB flash drive.

Try using the Lexar USB flash drive entry.

If Puppy is on the USB 3.0 flash drive use that entry to boot.

Do not use that UEFI entry.
That wants to see Windows as the bootable OS.

If you have 2 or more USB flash drives plugged in.
Only have the Puppy one plugged in.

I have a laptop that gives Puppy boot problems, if I have another USB drive plugged in, that is not the Puppy USB drive.
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#11 Post by bigpup »

The options on the Use A Device menu are Windows Recovery Manager, EFI USB Device, EFI DVD/CD-ROM and EFI Network
This is the bios default boot device selection options?
Is secure boot disabled when you see these options?

That kind of looks the way my bios did before I disabled secure boot.
I plugged in the Puppy USB drive.
After disabling secure boot, rebooting into bios setup.
It now offered Other USB devices.
The Puppy USB drive was one of them.
Made it the default boot device.
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#12 Post by d4p »

may help!
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways- ... windows-10

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#13 Post by RickGT351 »

rcrsn51 wrote:
If I boot from the regular flash drive entry, it works fine
Do you mean that it boots to the OS on the flash drive or to Windows?
It will boot to the flash drive eg Puppy. This on my computer not the tablet

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#14 Post by bigpup »

Any info about what I posted?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#15 Post by RickGT351 »

bigpup wrote:Any info about what I posted?
The tablet is somewhat resricted so that didn't happen for me.
The good news is that I did a reformat, which had previously failed, and the tablet is now working.
Thanks guys. There must be serious magic in getting advice on how to put Puppy on a Windows device :)

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#16 Post by rcrsn51 »

RickGT351 wrote:The good news is that I did a reformat, which had previously failed, and the tablet is now working.
As a Windows machine or with Puppy?

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#17 Post by Flash »

Do you mean the tablet went back to booting Windows? You never got it to boot Puppy or anything else? That's not solved. :lol:

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