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EdD

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2018, 11:45    Post subject:  installing Libreoffice in Slacko 6.3.0 32  

I downloaded Libreoffice last night, and had to just let it run in the background because it's a large transfer. Now, I don't know where it is, it doesn't appear to be in downloads, and I don't know if it's in the form of a pet or what.

My o/s is a full install of slacko 6.3.0 32 bit version. I'm using Firefox and thunderbird. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2018, 12:57    Post subject:  

If I do that I go to download again and look to see where it is pointing without actually starting it.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2018, 13:07    Post subject:  

Install this and use it to get LibreOffice
Should put a entry in menu>Document to run it.
This finds, downloads, a LibreOffice package that works in Puppy..

Get LibreOffice
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=116618

This will make a SFS package of LibreOffice for loading to a frugal install of Puppy.
However, if you left click on the SFS package it is suppose to install to a Full install Puppy like a pet package does.

If you actually manually get a LibreOffice package from their web site. deb packages usually work in Puppy.
Click on them like you do for a pet package to install.
They may or may not make menu entries.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 07:26    Post subject:  

Unfortunately this links to a very old version of Libreoffice.

The Puppy Package Manager has a more recent version, but even that has been superseded. The latest stable version is 6.0.7. I have tried to install it to replace 5.4, but although it opens it doesn't find the graphics (icons etc).

A how-to on installing the latest version would I am sure be of interest to many people.

bigpup wrote:
Install this and use it to get LibreOffice
Should put a entry in menu>Document to run it.
This finds, downloads, a LibreOffice package that works in Puppy..

Get LibreOffice
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=116618

etc...

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 08:33    Post subject:  

Try one of the SFS builds from here.

Your latest pkg, 6.1.3 >> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1010191#1010191

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 09:36    Post subject:  

Good grief, I had no idea it would be that easy.

Many thanks. I am now the proud owner of the latest cutting edge Libreoffice. Now to change it from US English to real English.


Semme wrote:
Try one of the SFS builds from here.

Your latest pkg, 6.1.3 >> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1010191#1010191

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 09:50    Post subject:    

Wink It's the Pup community that makes life easy.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 11:45    Post subject:  

olddog wrote:
Unfortunately this links to a very old version of Libreoffice.

The Puppy Package Manager has a more recent version, but even that has been superseded. The latest stable version is 6.0.7. I have tried to install it to replace 5.4, but although it opens it doesn't find the graphics (icons etc).

A how-to on installing the latest version would I am sure be of interest to many people.

bigpup wrote:
Install this and use it to get LibreOffice
Should put a entry in menu>Document to run it.
This finds, downloads, a LibreOffice package that works in Puppy..

Get LibreOffice
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=116618

etc...





Could you give more details on why Get LibreOffice did not work for you?
Did you see any errors when using it?
You did understand that Get LibreOffice is a program you run to download and install LibreOffice?

I just used Get LibreOffice V0.43
It offered the stable versions of LibreOffice up to 6.1.3 and the unstable testing versions up to 6.2

It downloaded and made a working sfs package of LibreOffice 6.1.3. All features and icons work.
SFS package loaded in a frugal installed Puppy

Trying to install a sfs package into a full install of Puppy could be an issue. I understand you are using a full install.

Any help you can provide to maybe uncover a bug in Get LibreOffice will help!

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 13:49    Post subject:  

Yes, the 6.1.3 is the version I downloaded. Installing the SFS onto a full install is the problem. I might just reinstall Slacko as a frugal. Thanks, everybody.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 18:24    Post subject: As You're Already Thinking of Substituting Frugal for Full  

EdD wrote:
I might just reinstall Slacko as a frugal. Thanks, everybody.


Highly recommended. Frugal simply means that it "frugally" uses your hard-drive: not requiring an entire partition to itself. It is otherwise the same OS as "Full", except that Frugal provides more flexibility, is more secure, can be backed-up, thus easily recovered and provides several other options not available with Full.

Frugal was the original design. Full was developed at a time when having more than 256 Mbs of RAM was an expensive luxury. Under that circumstance a Full install enabled quicker bootup and application opening. With more than 256 Mbs of RAM and today's more powerful CPUs, the difference is measured in micro-seconds.

Full is only recommended for computers with less than 256 Mbs of RAM or when compiling applications. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of Puppy ISOs and scores of Puppy reviews which don't come with that warning.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 19:36    Post subject:  

Good to know. I started using Puppy when my computers had typically about 512 megs of RAM. Full install is what I have always done. I never knew the advantages of a frugal install because I have never used on except on old laptops with WinXP. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 20:38    Post subject: Switching from Full to Frugal  

Hi EdD,

When you're ready to switch from Full to Frugal, take a look at the bottom third of this post, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=980683#980683 and the one it links to. Both provide instructions to end up with a Frugal install. But, note the following:

frenchy wanted an encrypted SaveFile. Only Linux Ext2 supports that. I generally recommend Ext3 and some Puppy fans recommend Ext4.

With a Frugal install on a Linux formatted drive/partition you'll have a choice between created a SaveFile (compressed, fixed-size but resize-able) or a SaveFolder (uncompressed and automatically grows as needed). The application running to create it will recommend a SaveFolder. But, I prefer SaveFiles. If you have any questions, search or ask.

The files to copy from the mounted Slacko ISO are exactly the same as those mentioned in the posts, except two will have slacko in its name rather than tahr.

The SaveFile or SaveFolder you create on first shutdown will be automatically placed in the folder you created --unless you select a different partition for it. [Don't, unless you have a good reason]. After you boot into your Frugal Slacko with a SaveFile and are satisfied that it is working properly, you can safely delete everything on that partition not in that folder and before shutdown run grub4dos to create a new menu.lst unless your frugal Puppy's folder is on the same partition as your bootloader. If it is on the same partition, and you have any uncertainty as to what files not to delete --needed by your bootloader-- it's best take a screenshot of the partition and ask.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2018, 22:28    Post subject:  

Good deal, Mike. I'll save that post for reference. thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2018, 10:42    Post subject:  

EdD wrote:
Yes, the 6.1.3 is the version I downloaded. Installing the SFS onto a full install is the problem. I might just reinstall Slacko as a frugal. Thanks, everybody.

Thanks for the info!

I kind of figured that was the problem.
SFS packages are suppose to install into a full installed Puppy, just like a pet package, but do seem to not do it very well.
This could be something missing in the sfs package, but not sure what.
The sfs package of LibreOffice works OK used as a loaded sfs in a frugal installed Puppy.

Yes!
Use Puppy as a frugal install and you will never look back!
Best if you can install to a ext 3 or 4 formatted partition.
That way the save can be a save folder.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2018, 15:23    Post subject:  

Thanks, bigpup.
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